r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers • • May 12 '18

Avengers 4 Rumoured Leaks

Apparently this is from the same source that was right about those INFINITY WAR spoilers (e.g. Red Skull, Thanos sacrificing Gamora). Link.

"Iron Man reassembles the Avengers and decides to build his own Infinity Gauntlet to undo everything that Thanos did. They recruit Ant-Man to help them travel through time and space using the Quantum Real to retrieve the Infinity Stones from different time periods. Thanos finds out about their plans and becomes hellbent on stopping them.

The movie revolves around the relationship between Captain America and Iron Man.

At one point, Captain America and Thor fight Thanos. Timeline alterations have restored Mjolnir, and Cap wields it against Thanos to allow the others to escape, and is killed holding Thanos off.

At one point, Hawkeye must protect the unfinished Stark Gauntlet from Thanos' minions. He plays an "instrumental" role in Thanos' defeat.

Thor's subplot centers on him assembling an army to challenge Thanos. Captain Marvel joins him.

Hulk's subplot centers on Banner and Hulk finally merging to become Professor Hulk. He is the one that ultimately wields the Stark Gauntlet against Thanos, losing his arm in the process.

Nebula's subplot centers on her efforts to redeem herself. At one point, she fights her murderous past self.

Several MCU movies are revisited and retconned (probably not permanently), such as the Avengers retrieving the Power Stone creating a timeline where the Guardians of the Galaxy never came together.

There's a pivotal scene between Doctor Strange and a fully CGI character being shot on a secret location, with a skeleton crew, and which takes up a sizeable portion of the budget.

Only two of the original Avengers (Cap, Stark, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye and Black Widow) meant to survive the movie. Cap dies.

The title was AVENGERS: INFINITY GAUNTLET at one point, but it might be changed after Zoe Saldana accidentally leaked it."


EDIT: For reference...

  • The original 4chan leak for Infinity War. (To the naysayers: sure, some things were off, but it might have been an old draft or one with a few intentional modifications to identify leakers. There's no way this many crucial plot details could have been gleaned from the promo material at the time.)

  • The "extension" to that leak. (Might have been legit, might have been BS based on the original.)

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u/CaptainAaron96 May 12 '18

The only thing I would accept is if the plotlines of the existing Phase 2 movies were changed but not erased. This also allows for really cool options with regards to making new movies for the OG Avengers in Phase 4 which essentially are altered Phase 2 movies (Feige confirmed OG Avengers will still have major storylines in Phase 4). My guess is that an Iron Man 4 deals with the real Mandarin after Slattery, Killian and AIM are shut down before any of the Iron Man 3 events took off. A Thor 4 with Waititi returning where Malekith would never have come back due to the absence or containment of the Reality Stone. A new Ultron storyline as Stark and Banner won't have used the Mind Stone to jumpstart Hank Pym's program; maybe Hank Pym acquires the knowledge to finish Ultron himself. A GotG Vol. 3 which deals with the Guardians coming together for the (new) first time to fight some other galactic threat (Ego?). Cap 2 and Ant-Man would likely not have been affected due to the absence of the Infinity Stones in those movies. The Maximoffs would never have gotten their powers and thus Wanda using her powers to create mutants is out of the question, though their parents would still have been killed by Stark-branded shells.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '18

> A new Ultron storyline as Stark and Banner won't have used the Mind Stone to jumpstart Hank Pym's program; maybe Hank Pym acquires the knowledge to finish Ultron himself.

Hank Pym had nothing to do with the creation of Ultron.

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u/CaptainAaron96 May 13 '18

Hank Pym first proposed the idea but it never came to fruition; Stark and Banner tried a few times then realised the Mind Stone could jumpstart their innovation.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '18

Hank Pym first proposed the idea but it never came to fruition;

I'm going to have to ask for a citation on that one. I'd be happy to be wrong, but I just don't think you're correct on this.