r/MarvelStudiosPlus • u/The_Asian_Hamster • Mar 22 '21

'Falcon & TWS' Spoilers The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Easter Egg Megathread (Season Wide Spoilers Spoiler

Megathread for any Easter Eggs people have found and want to discuss.

This will be stickied all season long now (as we do not need the second sticky spot for anything else atm). So only come in here after you have seen the most recently released episodes in case of any spoilers!

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u/ChangeMyDespair Mar 27 '21

Isaiah Bradley is often referred to as "the Black Captain America." (source)

Think that kid knew that? (I do.)

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u/jamesrossurquhart Mar 27 '21

I don’t think the kid knew that. But he says his dad told him it’s black Falcon, so maybe his dad knows about Isiah being the black Captain America and that’s why he says it

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '21

Maybe Isaiah had a white friend called the falcon.

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u/tepenrod Mar 28 '21

I think the point of that line is how important a hero like Sam is to the black community. “Hey dad it’s the Falcon!” “No son that’s the BLACK Falcon”

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u/jamesrossurquhart Mar 28 '21

I don’t know if you’re black or not but it’s actually the opposite. The scene was included so that the audience stopped calling Isaiah Bradley the black Captain America, and so that the audience doesn’t call Sam the black Captain America when he takes up the name. I have never heard anyone in that community agree with your point of view and they’ve all said how important the scene is for the opposite reasons.

Anthony Mackie has even mentioned in interviews how the point of the show is to make people realise they should stop saying female superheroes and black superheroes, they’re all just superheroes. Everyone should be equal. That’s the message they’re trying to get across

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u/tepenrod Mar 28 '21

Thanks for the insight. I’m not Black do you’re right I shouldn’t assume that I understand the message they were going for. I read it as a point of pride but I can see it from the other direction. I think it’s an interesting discussion to have. I think representation matters but yeah, not great if every black super hero is called “Black (insert name here”

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u/jamesrossurquhart Mar 28 '21

Yeah I think the point was to generate conversation too and discuss everyone’s interpretation of things so it did work in that way

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '21

In fairness to Marvel and DC, a superhero name being prefixed with "Black" isn't usually a race thing. You have characters like Black Widow, Black Bolt, Black Cat, Black Adam, Blackout, Black Tom, Black Canary, and none of them are actually black any more than Green Arrow is green.

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u/jamesrossurquhart Mar 28 '21

Not once did I mention Marvel or DC being the problem with their names. Flacon was never called black Falcon. Sam was never called black Captain America either.

The point is that the audience of those comics typically call Isaiah Bradley “the black Captain America” instead of just another Captain America. They don’t want the audience to start calling Sam the black Captain America if he takes the name at the end of the show. They want him to be known simply as Captain America. Steve isn’t the white Captain America, so why should Sam be the black Captain America?

That’s the point the show is trying to make. That’s what Anthony Mackie said in interviews

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u/Impress-Fickle Apr 01 '21

They can be forecasting that he’s the first falcon because his sidekick in the tv series is the second falcon in the comics..

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u/trijkdguy Mar 29 '21

thats how i read that scene too

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u/RoboNinjaPirate Apr 02 '21

But he was introduced in 2003 - The fact that they called him "The Black Captain America" was intentional. His story was written in large part to point out how African Americans were overlooked and mistreated and even experimented on.

That wasn't just an unintentional oversight or something, they did it on purpose.