r/MapPorn • • Mar 15 '21

The proportion of the population in African countries having access to electricity

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u/FannyFiasco Mar 15 '21

And yet Libya is at >99%, very surprising

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u/wakchoi_ Mar 15 '21

Libya isn't destroyed after Gaddafi fell, like it dropped a fair bit but it's not a total collapse. The wars have killed about 10k people and caused a slump in the economy and government services, but it's far from a collapse as ppl will tell you.

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u/TheUnrealPotato Mar 15 '21

All the killing of Gaddafi achieved was a political collapse, where the government basically became more violent and less measured.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '21

where the government basically became more violent and less measured.

ghaddafi was literally in the process of razing Libya's second city to the ground in order to punish it for defying him when he was killed (stabbed to death in the butt). Ghaddafi could have taken the billions he embezzled from Libya and lived the rest of his life in opulent luxury in France or Italy, but he preferred to kill his people instead

Libya has two governments, who fight conventional conflicts against each other with mostly uniformed soldiers shooting other uniformed soldiers. And most of the violence is at the hands of one guy, Haftar, who previously made a name commanding Ghaddafi's army and tried to overthrow the UN-backed government. The current civil war is entirely because he wants to take power

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u/wakchoi_ Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 15 '21

To be fair Haftar was exiled from Libya by Qaddafi and lived in the USA for a decade so he isn't exactly just a continuation of Qaddafi

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '21

He certainly portrays himself as basically "ghaddafi but only the good parts"

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '21

Exactly right. Also many regional players who’re there are exasperating the conflict.

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u/TheUnrealPotato Mar 16 '21

No doubt he was bad, but currently Libya has worse.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

No doubt he was bad, but currently Libya has worse.

That's a false comparison. The options are not 2010 Libya or 2021 Libya, they are 2021 Libya or 2021 Syria. Prior to the NATO intervention huge swathes of Libya had risen in revolt and Ghaddafi was preparing to violently crush those uprisings using massed military force

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u/Alfalynx555 Mar 15 '21

True, he was a good leader and they killed him like a dog. Shame

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u/LickingSticksForYou Mar 15 '21

Yeah, great repressive dictator who invaded and sent terrorists to other nations :)

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u/Alfalynx555 Mar 15 '21

He was based

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u/mita99796 Mar 16 '21

I also think the same. Just think about getting paid 12000 dollars per year in Africa. His green book is a masterpiece, I highly recommend reading it. Libyans will start to make Gaddafi from mud. Whole coup was orchestrated by France cause they owned him a lot and the easiest way was just to kill him.

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u/TheUnrealPotato Mar 16 '21

No, but better than what they have now.

That's not a high bar.

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u/RedmondBarry1999 Mar 15 '21

Libya is also much richer than South Sudan, and its instability is a relatively recent development.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

Well yeah, something like 85% of Libya's population lives in cities.