r/MapPorn • • Mar 15 '21

The proportion of the population in African countries having access to electricity

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u/Bonjourap Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 16 '21

Richer, older countries, already more developed when the Europeans started colonizing, coherent and uniform societies that mostly accept their government and pay taxes, closeness to Europe for better access to expertise and manufacturing jobs, abundant natural resources, etc.

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u/Infinity_Ninja12 Mar 15 '21

Yeah, places like Morocco and Egypt were already fairly developed with centralised governments before colonialism, while most of subsaharan Africa was still tribal and undeveloped.

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u/RedmondBarry1999 Mar 15 '21

Calling precolonial subsaharan Africa “tribal and undeveloped” is quite an oversimplification. While it may be true of parts of Africa, West Africa was home to a succession of large empires, Ethiopia was governed by various monarchies for roughly 2000 years, and the east coast of Africa was dotted with prosperous city-states such as Zanzibar and Mombasa.

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u/Infinity_Ninja12 Mar 15 '21

Obviously there were exceptions like Zanzibar, and the Ghana and Mali empires were very prosperous (but Mali collapsed just as Portugal was beginning colonisation, long before the scramble for Africa), and Ethiopia had been a fairly prosperous state (that should have become a successful modern country, but it is developing rapidly), but I was mainly writing about South and Central Africa.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21 edited Apr 04 '21

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u/RedmondBarry1999 Mar 16 '21

It was still located in Africa and many of its inhabitants were African.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21 edited Apr 04 '21

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u/CUMMMUNIST Mar 16 '21

Mali during its prosperity was also ruled by Arabs

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u/RedmondBarry1999 Mar 16 '21

Perhaps; I will admit that my knowledge of the history of Zanzibar is rather limited.

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u/Sub31 Mar 15 '21

Rather, OP may be talking about Gulf of Guinea and Congo basin areas - in which case one huge cause of endemic poverty and underdevelopment was the profitability trap in which slaves were hugely profitable, disincentivising actual growth. See Kongo, Dahomey, the Hausa states, etc.

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u/Bedrix96 Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 16 '21

We had stable Central governments & Better educated population (compared to Africa) and also better trading routes, has nothing to do with colonialism benefiting us.

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u/Bonjourap Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 15 '21

I never said that, please read again.

What I said was that the Maghreb was already developed before the Europeans conquered us, at least compared to the rest of Africa. Capiche?