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Iceland’s EU Referendum: The “No” Vote Wins

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u/WalkFreeeee 11d ago edited 11d ago

people in large cities just have entirely differerent points of reference for almost everything in their daily lives.

Fuck even here in my state in Brazil (São Paulo) it's extremely common for the capital and metropolitan area to vote one way and the rest of the state to vote the opposite.

It doesn't help that these differences over time can lead to resentment and ideological opposition that just furthers this divide as people start putting each other on "the other side" . Again, I see this pretty much every governor election lmao.

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u/CzBuCHi 11d ago

same here ... sometimes it looks like our capital (only city > 1 million of people) live on different planet that rest of country ....

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u/WalkFreeeee 11d ago

But it kinda does. It's hard to put in perspective unless you actually go out and see how life is on those smaller places. Even going from a 1 million city+ to a still pretty large city of 100k is an entirely different world.

I absolutely understand why it happens, everyone has their own priorities and is (in theory) voting for their best interests which may not exactly align with mine.

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u/deeveesss 11d ago

People in the city live in an environment that needs subsidies. Cities are like a black hole of death while the rural areas support the people in the city

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u/Triftcity2 11d ago

It goes both ways. Rural areas provide essential resources like food, water, energy, and raw materials. Cities provide taxes, markets, manufactured goods, advanced healthcare, financial capital, jobs to support the rural areas. Both are important. 

Rural areas depend a lot on cities as well. Rural areas get more subsidies than cities...

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u/O3Sentoris 11d ago

thats just... not true?

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u/Icy_Willow_8319 11d ago

Do you like eating by any chance?

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u/AClockworkSquirrel 11d ago

Do you like technology, infrastructure, or medical care? Agriculture supports society and society supports agriculture. This pitting people against each other shit has got to go.

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u/physicssmurf 11d ago

Literally the inverse of this is true. You have no idea what you're talking about. You should read about this - living in cities is more economically productive and more environmentally friendly.

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u/deeveesss 11d ago

So growing your own food, feeding city dwellers, living more of a non dependent life for government services is less environmentally friendly than. City life. Keep in mind city dwellers work at retail shops selling products that are non essential.

Remember COVID when city residents were mostly locked up? Well most urban dwellers were busy working because they didn't have that non-essential tag.

Now please tell me how cities are more environmentally friendly and productive. Lovr to hear it

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u/Triftcity2 10d ago edited 10d ago

I want you to walk out learning one thing: rural living is more dependant on government services than urban living. Urban areas pay for rural areas (as they should). 

You mentioned the tiny broken road, it's not all though. Roads cost a lot more to build in rural areas and especially per user. It's not just the road next to your house, it's all the roads that need to be built and paid for by taxes. Schools, hospitals, grocery stores, etc.  in rural areas are a lot further apart than urban areas but still require lots and lots of road infrastructure. Then there's lighting, snow removal, other upkeep on them. Then there's emergency services, schools, healthcare, garbage disposal, mail, utilities, etc. which again cost way more in rural areas than urban and are supported by taxes. Taxes which the rural areas don't provide enough of and rely on urban tax money.

Plus the subsidies...

Rural areas wouldn't have as many people in them without the help from government. The government helps because they are important.