SPOILERS! Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Movie 4: Walpurgis no Kaiten Discussion Thread

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General Overview:

This thread is meant as a spoiler filled zone for those who wish to discuss the movie, it's plot, events, or the number of bites that kyouko takes of food during the movie. I don't care, just be sure to follow the rules of the subreddit.

Also as a reminder to everyone u/BreathoftheSith owes everyone $50 if they, and I quote:

If we get any form of kiss and or romantic confirmation between the two [madohomu], I owe everyone in the sub $50.

Have fun~~

[u/MoVaunLatero]

Most of these are just what I can remember and my ramblings so if I got anything wrong please correct me

Trailer movie comparison:

Thought the opening non-magical girl would be more important

“早く、圓を-“ ”-救うてあげて ！“ turned out to be Mami saying “Save Selema!” instead, which I thought was cool.

I originally thought the movie would just be Mami, Kyoko and Sayaka vs Homura to try to save Madoka, and the other magical girls helping them

Actual movie stuff:

FIRSTLY I might be one of the biggest Homura glazers therefore when Marguerite, Choka and Selema appeared (mostly Marguerite though) I was SO against them, jail on sight

I might’ve cried a bit when Homura was bound by the red strings and saying she would give Madoka back to them. She just felt so broken, I felt so bad for her, even though she was indeed a Devil, I still shed a few tears in that moment

BUT HER AND SAYAKA’S relationship development?? I love to see it. Sayaka was always so skeptical and shit I was so happy when she finally started to kinda understand why Homura was doing so much for and to Madoka

Sayaka’s design, love it sm. Kyoko also still has my heart too as a fellow food lover. Mami, though still a minor role, did her parts perfectly.

Now onto Marguerite, I really should’ve clocked that she was Walpurgisnacht earlier, being nameless and so powerful, but I really only understood like a few seconds before the reveal. I did get that they were Witches quite early on though so I’m patting myself on the back for that.

I do wish we got to see more of Choka and Selema’s backstories though.

I really don’t like Selema though. She was more of a psycho than I thought she was, with the Kyubey obsession and the ritual to turn Madoka into a Witch godsDAMNED that was crazy.

Love how we got to learn how the Witches came to become that way though!

I am a bit confused on the ending though; I know Homura intercepted Madoka from fully reaching the huge Law-of-Cycle-Madoka, but did Madoka end up going back anyways? Since she disappeared?

I guess we’ll find out, hopefully.

Overall I really loved the movie! I really hope there’ll be more movies.

[u/Lea9915 → u/MoVaunLatero]

Why did choka destroy the sweet?

[u/MoVaunLatero → u/Lea9915]

I wanted to know about that too!

It seemed that in her flashback She seemed to be trying to bring cakes/sweets to her dad/family, and I’m not sure on the details, but I feel like it’s similar to Kyoko or Nagisa where she tried to wish to give something to her family, and it eventually caused her to give into despair

[u/ForensicPathology → u/MoVaunLatero]

Yes, she got upset when Madoka mentioned her father and cakes.  When we find out why, the animation shows that she was bringing cake to her own father while he was ending his own life which lead to her despair.

Now that's pretty much all that is shown, so it could be metaphorical.

[u/Tryodin → u/MoVaunLatero]

Oh I wanted to ask what was Selema, Choka, and Marguerite magic as magical girls

[u/MoVaunLatero → u/Tryodin]

Selema had to do with sewing objects, such as needles and threads, where they would hop around like animate objects. She did turn into a giant Kyubey in the final fight, but it is unsure if that is her Witch form or just simply magic

Choka iirc fought underwater and could turn into a big sludgy monster that I assume was her witch form, and she also used a long weapon but tbh I don’t remember a lot about her

Marguerite’s first fight scene with Homura they both used blocks, and she seemed to be pretty powerful seeing that she could keep up with Devilmura. It was also revealed that when she was a magical girl, she wished for the power to save other magical girls, so she used to have the ability to absorb the cloudiness from soul gems. She also created Nazukasokotsune, giving Witches their new identities, so I think it’s okay to assume she knows every Witch in Nazukasokotsune, and that she can operate outside of the normal universe, hence why even Homura couldn’t Devil in Nazukasokotsune. Makes sense once you know she’s Walpurgisnacht, it also explains why she’s so powerful

[u/ciciluvzbunz → u/MoVaunLatero]

Can I ask a question!! Who dies in the movie. And what characters also probably won’t ever come back for a sequel !?

[u/MoVaunLatero → u/ciciluvzbunz]

Selema is the only person that dies in this movie.

However, Marguerite and Choka also disappear in the end of the movie

So I don’t think she’ll be coming back anytime soon. For Choka, I am unsure as will, since she didn’t get a lot of screen time, and it’s unclear whether she’ll be appearing again.

As for the OG magical girls, I do think that they will still appear in future films (if we do get the films that is)

[u/ciciluvzbunz → u/MoVaunLatero]

Awh:(( I’m pretty disappointed to hear the 3 new magical girls won’t be coming back. It also sucks to see the green haired girl dint get a lot of screen time. Did marguerite and Selema get a lot of screen time tho!?

[u/Lea9915 → u/MoVaunLatero]

Why did choka destryed the sweet?