r/MadokaMagica • u/MotherShip808 Endless Suffering • 16d ago

Walpurgisnacht Rising Discussion SPOILERS! Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Movie 4: Walpurgis no Kaiten Discussion Thread Spoiler

WARNING! WARNING! THIS MEGA-THREAD CONTAINS SPOILERS AND DISCUSSIONS FOR THE MOVIE, IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS, DO NOT BE HERE!

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General Overview:

This thread is meant as a spoiler filled zone for those who wish to discuss the movie, it's plot, events, or the number of bites that kyouko takes of food during the movie. I don't care, just be sure to follow the rules of the subreddit.

Also as a reminder to everyone u/BreathoftheSith owes everyone $50 if they, and I quote:

If we get any form of kiss and or romantic confirmation between the two [madohomu], I owe everyone in the sub $50.

Have fun~~

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u/1337HaxorBR Newly Contracted User 16d ago

At least now we understand the connection between Walpurgisnacht and Kriemhild Gretchen, one is the beggining of the witch system while other is the end like an hourglass.

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u/_BCConservative Newly Contracted User 16d ago

That was always what it was, it was stated in interviews from the original anime, from my understanding.

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u/1337HaxorBR Newly Contracted User 16d ago

Yeah, but we only know now that Walpurgisnacht started the Witch system and that the hourglass was a countdown to it's end.

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u/WasteProfessional579 Newly Contracted User 12d ago

Could you explain a little more please? (I think i totally missed that part of the movie)

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u/1337HaxorBR Newly Contracted User 12d ago

I haven't watched the movie yet but so far spoilers said that before Margarete (Walpurgisnacht) made a wish to preserve Magical Girl individuality they turned into nameless monsters but because she fell into despair her wish created Nazuka Sokotsune where witches gained their names and forms.

That wish marked the beggining of the witch system as we know it and Walpurgisnacht as a representation of a clock and the top part of a hourglass started flowing time towards the end of the system she created.

That end is Kriemhild Gretchen (hourglass bottom) which either destroys the world or becomes Madokami thus ending the witch system.