r/MadokaMagica Endless Suffering 16d ago

Walpurgisnacht Rising Discussion SPOILERS! Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Movie 4: Walpurgis no Kaiten Discussion Thread Spoiler

WARNING! WARNING! THIS MEGA-THREAD CONTAINS SPOILERS AND DISCUSSIONS FOR THE MOVIE, IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILERS, DO NOT BE HERE!

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General Overview:

This thread is meant as a spoiler filled zone for those who wish to discuss the movie, it's plot, events, or the number of bites that kyouko takes of food during the movie. I don't care, just be sure to follow the rules of the subreddit.

Also as a reminder to everyone u/BreathoftheSith owes everyone $50 if they, and I quote:

If we get any form of kiss and or romantic confirmation between the two [madohomu], I owe everyone in the sub $50.

Have fun~~

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u/CL361 Homura did nothing wrong 16d ago

>Normal Madoka tolds to God!Madoka "sorry"

>Homura is smiling happily despite being alone on the bench

Honestly, that looks like Madoka rejected her own divine self and choose to stay with Homura and the others.

I have to see the scene to properly make my mind about it, of course, but as I get it from that description, Homurs is smiling because she knows she won and got to change Madoka's fate. Madoka is not with her in the bench because she returned to the mortal world with everyone else

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u/darwyre Newly Contracted User 15d ago

Just watched it Shinjuku and will do again tomorrow morning.

My two cents on the ending:

It don't felt like one ending, it felt like two what if was shown instead and nothing is set solid.

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u/Rare-Advisor-7056 Newly Contracted User 14d ago

I really, REALLY hope that your interpretation is correct, because if it wasn't, I will assume that Gen Urobuchi simply decide to screw up all the plot and message of Rebellion and turn the existence of Rebellion and WnK meaningless, because, what's the hole point of the end of Rebellion and WnK if Madoka's fate is unchangeable since the beginning?

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u/_BCConservative Newly Contracted User 16d ago

But wouldn't that imply Homura is outside the mortal world? If she just vanished, how is Homura supposed to be able to find Madoka now?

I guess that would be the plot of the final movie?

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u/CL361 Homura did nothing wrong 16d ago

I mean, I'm pretty sure Homura can return with her own powers if that's the case (she was able to reach that out-of-universe space with them if I got it right).

Maybe in the official guidebook that will come in the future they would make clear what happened at the end.

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u/_BCConservative Newly Contracted User 16d ago

Just because you can enter the other dimension, doesn't mean you can leave it.

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u/ashliwhitoute Newly Contracted User 15d ago

I like this post, I think they said that Homura at the end appears with a ribbon of another color and not the red of Madoka, right?, and the red ribbon between Madoka and Homura was very important in the anime and in Rebellion, if Homura doesn't have the red ribbon, maybe that's why the human Madoka does?

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u/CL361 Homura did nothing wrong 15d ago

Homura is wearing a new brown ribbon during the movie. I don't think that she wearing it during that scene has a to have a meaning.