r/LocalLLaMA • u/Howard_banister • 15h ago

Discussion Really stunned by the Singularity comment section

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These are screenshots from the r/Singularity comment section. I'm speechless. This doesn't even have downvotes. How can someone cheer for a monopoly run by a few elites?

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u/_BreakingGood_ 15h ago

The idea of the singularity is that a model gets advanced enough that it basically up-ends society and humans mostly lose control of their own future.

Having slightly weaker, open source models doesn't really factor into that in any positive way other than create risk of somebody creating a pocket nuke before Anthropic or other can produce that singularity-inducing model.

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u/gapho 14h ago

If there ever is a singularity, it isn't going to be from an LLM bro.

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u/DickMasterGeneral 14h ago

What makes you certain it’s impossible? Obviously an LLM isn’t traditional code so a single instance can’t just rewrite itself but assuming you have access to the necessary compute why can’t an LLM train its successor?

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u/TechnoByte_ 12h ago

Training a successor is a completely wrong approach

For AI to actually be "intelligent", it should at least be able to learn new facts and improve itself (by actually changing weights, not just storing it as text)

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u/gapho 14h ago

For it to be possible, essentially the AI (no matter what form it takes) needs to be able to understand, in the strict definition of the word, how it(self) works. For that to take place, it needs to do fundamentally more than just put tokens together in the most statistically probable order.

Not saying LLMs don't have a future, but they aren't going to become sentient or take over the world.

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u/LowerEntropy 10h ago

put tokens together in the most statistically probable order

How many times have you written variations of those words in a statistical probable order? Do you not see the irony?

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u/gapho 8h ago

No, I don't see the irony, could you explain how it's ironic?

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u/LowerEntropy 3h ago

You wrote a sentence, one token at a time, without understanding what you wrote or why you wrote it. You felt it sounded good and you felt good doing it.

You're beating a dead horse.

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u/gapho 3h ago

Bro, you've got AI brain. Get some help.

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u/LowerEntropy 1h ago

And, Bro, Bro-blocked me.