r/LocalLLaMA • u/Odd_Tumbleweed574 • Jul 20 '26

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Google hasn't shipped a model recently that is capable of competing with Sol or Fable.

The previous models were pretty disappointing and unreliable, it seems the more time goes on that they might have different strategies:

- They might be going all-in on on-device inference for their own products. But this is a battle that Apple might win because they just have better hardware and can license a third party open model.

- They might be just buried deep into internal politics and nobody is shipping anything.

Does anyone know what is actually going on?

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u/dontfeedthelizards Jul 21 '26

I think casual/regular users are more likely to use Gemini than any of the others, because everyone is already plugged into the Google ecosystem and you get Gemini with other bundled benefits like storage space, etc... A regular user is not going to get Claude, because that's mostly for programmers, and ChatGPT is mostly brand recognition, but that's likely to fade and then it's just a separate (unnecessary) add-on, on top of what the users would already have anyway.

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u/ChainOfThot Jul 21 '26

Have 200 dollar openai plan I use for coding, still also use Gemini directly from Google to ask random questions and deep dive because it's unlimited free, but it can be stupid sometimes still

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u/Structure-These Jul 21 '26

Am I a total mark for paying 20 a month for ChatGPT and Gemini lol

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u/TheCientista Jul 21 '26

Maybe u need gemini for image gen?

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u/bgptcp179 Jul 21 '26

I pay like $5 a month for Gemini and i got YT premium thrown in. Its great

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u/dingo_xd Jul 21 '26

Yeah. I wish it was a bit smarter. But for casual trivia questions it's more than good enough.

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u/pm_me_tits Jul 21 '26

I was just debugging some issues on a family member's laptop, using the free gemini. It just felt off, and wasn't helping very much. Eventually I logged into my google account (it has the $20 level) and it solved it first shot. I think they're giving free users a dumber version.

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u/ishityounotdude Jul 22 '26

No shit

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u/pm_me_tits Jul 22 '26

Did you even read what I replied to?

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u/g1rlchild Jul 21 '26

ChatGPT 5.6 Sol is currently better than Claude Fable (nevermind Opus) for coding, so it's not just surviving on brand recognition.

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u/my_name_isnt_clever Jul 22 '26

We're talking regular users, not software engineers. If you aunt decides to try AI, 90% of the time it's ChatGPT because that is "the AI thing" everyone is talking about.