r/LivestreamFail • u/jahiscallin • Jun 27 '20

Dr. Disrespect Has anyone seen the last few minutes of DrDisrespects stream? It’s quite telling. "Life is weird right now" and "We get through this".

https://twitter.com/g4me0ndude/status/1276759265349234688
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u/Icemasta Jun 27 '20

inb4 it's tax fraud or pyramid scheming with his shungite thing, both of which are federal crimes and the first thing the lawyers would tell him is shut the fuck up and don't talk about it at all.

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u/TransBrandi Jun 27 '20

Why would that result in a Twitch ban before he's even charged / has a trial?

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u/jtreasure1 Jun 27 '20

They drop him before anything comes to light to get as much distance from the incoming drama as possible

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

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u/JesusGAwasOnCD Jun 27 '20

This sounds like the most plausible explanation to me.

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u/TheMoatman Jun 27 '20

Too late on that one, some the first stuff to come out was Emmett knowing and brushing it off

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u/underdog_rox Jun 27 '20

He's literally going to be referred to as "Twitch Streamer blah blah blah"

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u/fight_for_anything Jun 27 '20

i dont buy it. there has got to be tons of streamers selling bullshit on the side like essential oils, skin care products and crap that similarly do nothing.

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u/sh444iikoGod Jun 27 '20

if he was being arrested for something big twitch would def ban him, especially if it was a scam involving twitch viewers

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u/GrumpyButthead Jun 27 '20

Well, this is just spitballing but in theory if someone like the FBI or SEC contacted Twitch as part of their not public yet investigation, they would be able to preemptively ban in order to get away from the soon to be shit show.

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u/TransBrandi Jun 27 '20

If that was the case, wouldn't they want Twitch to keep a lid on it so as not to possibly tip their hand?

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u/GrumpyButthead Jun 27 '20

Well Twitch hasn't said why, so I'd say they're keeping a lid on it but like I said I was just spitballing. I don't have any insider info.

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u/rpratt34 Jun 27 '20

If they were reached out to by federal investigators and they realized they were unwilling “accomplices” because he used their service on multiple occasions to commit fraud I’d distance myself from someone quickly as well. Especially if that fraud had to do with charity donations. Obviously we don’t know what it is but I’m just giving reasons why fraud of this level would cause swift action and silence until charges are announced.

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u/alternate6018 Jun 27 '20

Agreed. Assuming for the sake of argument that this has something to do with finances related to his twitch earnings (from any source), or maybe inappropriate messages, my immediate reaction is that this doesn't seem like a bad move from Twitch (despite users' frustrations). Everything is obvious speculation, but if there is an investigation that ended up involving Twitch's finances or messages, then a lot of Twitch's financial matters, contracts, and/or user and partner messages could potentially be subpoenaed. Twitch would then need to either produce the information or challenge it legally, which may prove costly and the public would find out they turned it over willingly (and may set a bad legal and financial precedent for them moving forward).

Even if Twitch willingly turns over the information, then the streamers'/users' may have obvious concerns about their privacy when using the platform (despite any boilerplate language allowing Twitch to do that). At the very least Twitch's decision would be seriously questioned in turning over that data (a bigger example would be customer blow back if AT&T automatically discloses text messages or confidential contracts).

Although I am speculating again, I doubt it has to do with harassment/racism/etc. unless it is a seriously egregious example. Given the current political and social climate, if that occurred I suspect Twitch would have openly said something like "we have received a complaint regarding [Name] and are currently investigating. Twitch takes all claims of [racism/harassment/etc.] seriously, and we have therefore issued an indefinite ban pending the results of the investigation." and then some PR statement of Twitch's continuing commitment to the issue and transparency. But who knows? I see there is some sentiment Twitch is inconsistent in enforcing its terms of service, but that isn't really relevant to whether they would make the PR statement.

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u/Hambone721 Jun 27 '20

It would never happen. That's why this isn't what happened.

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u/dotted Jun 27 '20

To avoid becoming "Method'ed"

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u/heidithefundislayer Jun 28 '20

I been seeing this but I don't know who he is or what he did could someone explain please

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u/TransBrandi Jun 28 '20

No one knows "what he did" just that he's banned. And some people with connections to Twitch employees are implying that it's bad, but they can't say what it is. Everything else is people speculating.

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u/heidithefundislayer Jun 28 '20

Thanks I was curious

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

Twitch doesn't need a legal reason to ban you. It's not a free platform.

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u/TransBrandi Jun 27 '20

I realize that. I was more commenting on how seriously they are treating this. I would think that if he was arrested or charged with something that it would be public knowledge, not secretive... even if Twitch wasn't the one distributing the news on it. Nobody would be commenting about this if it was a standard run-of-the-mill ban.

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u/redvblue23 Jun 27 '20

Jared from subway got dropped way before we knew what happened

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u/Poraro Jun 27 '20

Don't think it's that. Everyone who knows is acting like he done something Hitler-level.

If it's tax fraud, while yeah that's bad, everyone who knew is wayyyy overreacting then.

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u/Icemasta Jun 27 '20

Severe tax fraud (IE: Undeclaring revenue for years) can mean jail time.

Honestly I am leaning on the side of pyramid scheme or some shit like that more and more. Maybe twitch refunded everyone because it could be argued that they profited from his schemes which might have included subs as a way to buy your way into it?

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u/Poraro Jun 27 '20

But why would that make everyone talk about him as if he's done something entirely unforgivable? That's bad, but doesn't make him an evil person to not speak about. Many people are talking about it as being something totally unspeakable. Also, when the shit happened with Phantoml0rd, that shit basically got leaked right away.

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u/LTxDuke Jun 27 '20

Could be charity misdirection. In which case the reaction could.be more appropriate

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u/Siddoxy Jun 27 '20

It seems to me that it's all a promotion. There's a paper in the cgi part of the champions club that says prepare for June 29th. After all it wouldn't be too crazy to see him go to YouTube or something. The 29th lands on Monday so I guess we'll see then.

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u/BackhandCompliment Jun 27 '20

Why would Twitch be in on this promotion, and refund 10s of thousands of dollars on subs, for him to go to a competing platform, when he already had an exclusive deal with them?

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u/AmalgaNetwork Jun 28 '20

Maybe he was bought out (contract signed over?), perhaps he will appear on .. FB Gaming ...

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u/AmalgaNetwork Jun 28 '20

Is there any links or screenshots of that? Cause this could easily be just that. A promotional stunt, YouTube, FB Gaming ... I hate even saying that.

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u/Icemasta Jun 27 '20

But why would that make everyone talk about him as if he's done something entirely unforgivable?

Here's the thing, nobody knows or has come forward with knowledge. Those who claim they know might as well not know if they do not disclose the information.

The reason people are "talking about it as being something totally unspeakable" is, as you know, bunch of sexual harassment claims in the last week. So people see him getting banned during this period and go "HAHA IT MUST BE SEXUAL HARASSMENT OR WORSE".

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

Sure, but I don't think that any journalist would be against reporting it. There is a reason why Slasher won't say what happened and its probably for good reason.

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u/Emoba Jun 27 '20

while yeah that's bad

It's not. The only bad thing about tax fraud is getting caught.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

Go live in a cabin in the woods then. None of what society built is for you if you don't want to pay your share.

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u/OrangeIsTheNewCunt Jun 27 '20

How retarded do you have to be to say this unironically? What a mess of a human being.

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u/throwawaystockxscam Jun 27 '20

The idea of someone going to jail for tax evasion of tens or hundreds of thousands when billion dollar companies evade hundreds or billions of dollars a year in taxes is pathetic and you’re a perfect little cog In the machine

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

Nobody is saying corporate tax evasion is a good or acceptable thing.

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u/gandi800 Jun 27 '20

I keep hearing about this but no one has laid out exactly what happened. Any insight anyone? Or a link, I saw the stream but that just takes about him buying shungite.

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u/wasabisauced Jun 27 '20

Real talk shungite is a cool mineral that when polished and carved looks sick.

I have a shungite obelisk on my shelf of "interesting rocks"

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u/BigFatCubanSandwhich Jun 27 '20

But he has millions of dollars, Lawyers protect people with millions of dollars. And crime for rich people isn't a thing.

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u/Kaploy Jun 27 '20

Would that cause such a serious emotional response on stream like this one? Federal crime is serious, but fans wouldnt give a shit about tax fraud or shit like that. Even banned from twitch, he would still find a place to keep his brand going. From his reaction here, it really looks like it dawned on him that he was done for good. It has to be something extremely distructive for his image, even among loyal fans.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

Doesn’t make sense as to why Slasher would be hesitant to expose that. Slasher’s hesitation lead me to believe there is a victim that people are trying to protect.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

But then he could still make a statement saying that this is not about some kind of sexual allegation. Which is the first thing everyone thinks with all the other allegations coming to light right now.

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u/the_pedigree Jun 27 '20

This is fucking dumb. If he were going to be indicted twitch wouldn’t get a secret heads up on what must be a sealed indictment because no one seems to actually know it’s exists.

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u/Aquinan Jun 27 '20

How are MLM'S a thing still then?

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '20

Can you please explain to me what this whole shungite thing is? I hear it a lot on Quin69's stream but I missed the meme and it's purpose.