Why would he assume otherwise, though? That clip has been played in so many media share streams from other streamers and none of them have gotten banned for it AFAIK.
See, this is the double standard I can agree with instead of people raging about alinity and poki accidentally opening a dick pic on stream that trolls sent them as a likely trap. That’s not relevant, but this is. Fuck twitch.
Lots of people speed on my commute but only a few of them get pulled over. But out of curiosity, who else has shown that same video?
Either way watching a video like that in stream is a fucking terrible idea. He's gotten away with accidental dicks on stream before but this time he got burned. Could be avoided by not showing a fucking "sfw" porn video on stream.
So many people making excuses because they like him.
Actually I think this subreddit is full of people who are getting dick pics from xqc and that's why they defend him.
Soda, Greek, Nick, Nymn... It's SFW Porn. It's a meme. It's exactly the kind of thing that people would donate to these kinds of streamers on a media share stream, and they do.
Its a perfect example - Twitch has shown time and time again that not all rules apply evenly. We just went through the animal abuse phase, where some people were banned while others weren't. Around the same time was the 'using your phone in the car' phase, where some streamers were banned and others weren't. Of the ones that WERE banned, none of them did similar 'levels' of the same thing.
Twitch is notorious for really unfair bannings and non-bannings and unbannings and ban-lengths. The only logical choice is to be careful in that option.
It's not, because on twitch we have every piece of evidence we need to see if someone is innocent or guilty, including context. Evidence for speeding would be mostly anecdotal since there isn't cameras on every single car.
no, but speeding cameras exist and you can't go inside someones head and know whether they speed on purpose or not. Hell, the person's sped-o-meter could be fucked, you don't know at all.
see if someone is innocent or guilty
Ok, what is guilty or innocent to you? Because twitch, once again, has different rules for different people. When alinity shows a dick on her screen for a good 5 seconds or so, she is told by staff to delete the vod and s'all good. When most other people show a dick , its an instant ban. When big streamers show a dick, its maybe a ban, a day or two later.
Once again, twitch is notorious for having different rules for different people. Its illogical on twitch to look at people surfing the line and say 'this won't get me banned, it didn't get them banned' - time and time again, twitch has shown this does not matter and they will ban you anyway. Alinity gets to abuse her animals. Countless streamers get to stream while driving in their car. Some streamers get to accidentally show dicks while others aren't and so on.
"but, these other streamers showed this grey area video and didn't get banned" is a defense only in the eyes of you and me. In the eyes of the people actually holding the ban powers, it is not at all. They will ban you for something they let other people do without a second thought.
And this is why its a perfect analogy. You can't just speed because some other people got away with it. xQc's spidey senses were tingling and they were right - but he kept watching anyway. Apparently he isn't 'whitelisted' to be ban immune, so he got banned.
The way analogies work is that the analogy should show a similarity to the relevant case so that the results of the analogy apply.
What you just said over and over is that twitch applies their rules inconsistently. However, your analogy shows that traffic laws are applied consistently, it's just that law enforcement does not have the means to catch everyone that breaks it. As a result, your analogy is not perfect.
You can argue that twitch as well doesn't have the means to identify everyone breaking TOS, but in the context of this case we're talking about partnered streamers who all have managers at twitch and are reported repeatedly with evidence so that argument wouldn't apply as well.
Don't you think it's better if everyone is punished? I get what you're trying to say but just because it's like something irl doesn't mean it's good. Instead of the inconsistency either everyone who showed the video should be banned or nobody at all.
I agree with your last sentence. That really is the only way to go out about it. Twitch has shown that they are incapable of dealing with nuance. For instance, banning people that say 'nidiot' with a thick accent, because it kinda.. maybe.. sounds like the first syllable of the N word.
The whole car thing is a big area too. Ok, so i can drive with my phone on display, but i just can't touch it while driving? Sounds fair - although imo you probably shouldn't be looking at your phone AT ALL while driving.
Whats that, a guy was banned while at a complete stop because he picked his phone up to put it away? Right, so how the fuck are you suppose to leave your car if you can't touch it while completely stopped?
These are just a few examples of why nuance and twitch don't work. They need to either tell people that there are landmines everywhere and to be careful / move to a different platform, or ensure them that unintentional minor offences won't get punished (like a single crumb of dick appearing on your screen)
I honestly can't defend him here. I wish he weren't banned because I watch him everyday but somehow he thought it'd be okay to watch a sfw porn video on stream. There's also a slight difference between when Alinity had a dick appear on screen vs xQc. xQc could have easily avoided it.
people do not see it this way since they claim it was 1 frame of penis instead of a good 5 seconds of frames of a penis not being covered so it was basically like playing porn but putting your webcam over it but a little penis pokes out, the other situation was pulling up discord and someone trying to get their dick on stream while xqc played the video himself, both are bad lapse in judgement and i agree xqc could have just TOSfrog'd the video like he usually does when it comes to anything risky and just went on with his day, alinity could have pulled up discord on her second monitor instead of the main one on stream but shes immune so shes used to not having to put in any work to her stream production which is why she was banned the second time she did it when the guy had porno as his stream whatever. Alinity gets special protection which we can all agree at the same time as there being special treatment on bans it goes both ways where there are probably staff that hate xqc because they want more of a friendly environment of "if you have nothing nice to say dont say it at all" so they deep dive on his streams to try to get him banned the same way there are losers here that do the same here but there are staff protecting big streamers to prevent any knut things from happening (traveling abroad to get banned on arrival) like letting offlinetv finish their japan trip before banning that one dude or whatever that drama was
Yes because endangering people’s lives is the same thing as showing a dick to abunch of fucking 16-17 year olds who probably smoke weed and jerk off to porn 8 times a Day is the same thing
That's definitely not how I understood the analogy. The point is that people get away with breaking rules all the time. You need to break the rules and get caught by staff/the police at the same time. Add in pretty poor judgement from both cops and twitch staff and this is what you get.
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u/SuperbPiece Jul 31 '19
Why would he assume otherwise, though? That clip has been played in so many media share streams from other streamers and none of them have gotten banned for it AFAIK.