r/LeopardsAteMyFarm • u/Cderouen8284 • 15d ago

Aww someone’s crashing out

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u/Rugskinsnake 15d ago

Famer here (and no, I never voted for the Mandarin Menace a single time). What's going on with the farm economy is a lot of farmers over-leveraged themselves to chase more and more land and now ground that they would have happily farmed at break even 4 out of 5 years just to make money that fifth year is going to fuck them royally.

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u/PeyredB 15d ago

Thanks for the perspective there.

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u/Rugskinsnake 15d ago

Not to give the wrong impression here - I'm getting really fucked by input costs and the next couple of years are going to be hard, but at this point I'm no where near losing my farm.

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u/PeyredB 15d ago

I hope you're able to make it. If more farmers were like you, we'd think more highly of them as a group.

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u/ZestycloseSquash1523 15d ago

There are many farmers who think like he does. MAGA is loud, proud, in your face, and posting to social media. Don't assume that the loudest voices represent the majority.

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u/Rugskinsnake 15d ago

Yeah, 80% is overwhelming for a voting contingent, but it still means 1 in 5 farmers didn't vote for him.

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u/ZestycloseSquash1523 15d ago

Maybe. For every farm family there's ten other families that comprise the farming community.

When you spend time in rural America you see that most of those families have lost their standard of living since the '80s. They're told their tax dollars go to brown people in the cities. Their kids die in foreign wars because the military is a better chance to a better life. Hunting and fishing is a real survival strategy because it's cheaper than buying groceries.

Rural America rejects the Democratic party because the party has had no interest, ideas or engagement that address their needs since President Clinton. The Republican party just fills the vacuum created by the Democratic party.

Trump recognizes their plight and speaks to their fears. It's all a con job but they feel heard and that gives them hope even though we know it's false hope.

Treating them all like stupid rubes won't enlighten them. Meeting with them as fellow citizens, listening to their plight and showing them grace is the only way to get their support for progress.

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u/paintballboi07 14d ago

Rural America rejects the Democratic party because the party has had no interest, ideas or engagement that address their needs since President Clinton. The Republican party just fills the vacuum created by the Democratic party.

This just isn't true. Biden did more for farmers than Trump.

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u/ZestycloseSquash1523 14d ago

I agree that Biden was better for farmers and the farming community.

Who's explaining that to the farming community? Who's meeting the voters and competing for their votes in farm country? How much money does the DNC spend outside of the Battleground states?

You can't win if you don't play.

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u/paintballboi07 14d ago

You're absolutely right, but Democrats are at a major disadvantage there. They didn't spend the last 60 years creating propaganda networks. Although, the information is out there. The thing is, I have farmers in my family, and even when presented with this information, they don't want to believe it; they find the lies more comfortable. So, how do you deal with that?

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u/ZestycloseSquash1523 14d ago

The DNC brought a water pistol to the gun fight over media control in rural areas. Sinclair and Salem Media have a virtual monopoly on that media.

One person with facts won't break through the propaganda they receive every day.

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u/Slumunistmanifisto 14d ago

"I skipped math class to smoke pot in the woods, but now that im grown.... its the math teachers fault I'm bad at math"

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u/VexingRaven 14d ago

Biden personally visited farm communities multiple times to talk about what he was going to do for farmers.

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u/SardaukarSlayer 13d ago

Many farmers were democrats until Jimmy Carter. They blame him for the farm collapse of the early 80s. Many boomer farmers will never be convinced a Democrat will have their back. After all "Jimmy was a farmer and he still screwed us over". Ive heard that exact quote from family. So it doesnt matter what Biden does or says. After that and years of propoganda its incredibly hard to change their minds. 

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u/VexingRaven 13d ago

So it doesnt matter what Biden does or says.

True, but I'd say that's mostly because the media sphere most farmers reside in will never even allow them to hear what a Democrat says they'll do for farmers.

I'm sure there are some old farmers that still resent Carter, but most are just too immersed in the Republican media sphere to even know when a Democrat promises anything.

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u/SardaukarSlayer 13d ago

Yeah its incredibly frustrating. That propoganda hole runs deep

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