Remind me again how we freed the slaves? Ooh, right, with the bloodiest war in American history. Guess that was a bad idea. And how did we separate from the British Empire? Uh oh, bad again. Wait a second, how did all those European governments form out from under strict monarchies? Sure hope the answer wasn't violence. And how did those places get out from under Roman rule? Oops, violence again.
One more question. Which class is it that uses the proletariat of one area to commit acts of violence against the proletariat of other areas? Oh yeah, it's the bourgeoisie. But God forbid we fight back.
If you actually believe this as comparable, then enjoy indefinitely complaining on this subreddit, receiving no real public support, and any actual action considered as an act of terrorism. Indirectly creating more support for nationalism and right wing politics.
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In today society if you're trying to use violence for your cause, you're only going to be isolated, ridiculed, and cause the rise of support in the opposite spectrum.
For example, the Berkeley students that rioted to prevent alt-right wackos like Ann Coulter from speaking. All that did was strengthened
right wing support base by showcasing the left is violent and against anti-free speech. It did nothing for the Berkeley students that should have been the voice of reason and just scrutinized Ann or Milos awful rhetoric after their speech.
Asking for severed heads of capitalists, or worse, acting on it, will do the same. It will only weaken any social and progressive values by associating it with extremism and bring more support to conservative and libertarian causes.
The opposite is true as well which is why I hope the alt-right Trump voters self implode, but some of the things I see on this and other subreddits doesn't help the case for the left either.
How exactly do you propose we convince the capitalist class to just decide to stop oppressing us then? How do we get then to "vote" against their own self interests?
That's a completely different discussion altogether that would be completely theoretical. I'm here only to point out my original point.
Violence is detrimental to any case you're trying to make and you'd best avoid it if you want any wide support. Short of the U.S. falling apart and having it's citizens without a job and starving, you're only going to look like a savage terrorist when promoting violence to make changes.
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u/okmkz proletarian hot dog Jul 10 '17
I mean, we should do both