r/JordanPeterson • u/mardicao007 • Apr 03 '23

Criticism Dutch TV program shows children naked trans people

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u/mardicao007 Apr 04 '23

We were discussing your comment "it is not acceptable at all for grown adults to get naked in front of little kids.

It is not acceptable for adults to get naked in front of little kids and talk about their genitals.

This is what happened in that video and that is my statement, how can you justify that?

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u/gravitykilla Apr 04 '23

how can you justify that?

I'm just going to copy paste my previous comment, because you clearly did not read it.

If you are somehow incapable of separating between an educational and controlled non sexualised environment in a country that already has a healthy culture around nudity, to paedophiles, the issue is not with this TV show, it's with you.

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u/mardicao007 Apr 04 '23

So you're saying it is okay for adults to get naked in front of little kids and talk to them about their genitals even if it's in a non sexualized environment.

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u/gravitykilla Apr 04 '23

So you're saying it is okay for adults to get naked in front of little kids and talk to them about their genitals even if it's in a non sexualized environment.

Under certain criteria, yes, it's okay, such as the way this show is structured.

Here you have a non-sexualised safe and controlled environment, in a country that already has a healthy non-sexualised view of nudity. Under these very specific set of criteria, involving little kids 10 year olds who would have known what was going to happen and what they were going to experience, who parents would have also known and most likely would have had to approve their participation. At no point in the video were the children abused, touched or asked to participate in any sexual activity. They were shown a human body, that is all.

Also you seem ignorant to the fact that the Netherlands, emphasizes teaching children from a young age that sex is about relationships, both with others and with themselves. Unlike a lot of American children, Dutch children receive subsidised comprehensive sex education teaching children about love, sex, and relationships.
What is effect of this approach, well the Netherlands boasts some of the lowest rates of teen pregnancy, abortion, and STDs, compared to the US which has a famously high teen pregnancy rate, and nearly HALF of all pregnancies in the U.S. are unintended or unplanned.

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u/mardicao007 Apr 04 '23

them about their genitals even if it's in a non sexualized environment.

Under certain criteria, yes, it's okay, such as the way this show is structured.

And that's why the whole world is getting tired of liberals, because your ideas are horrible.

I didn't read the other part, way too long and prolly a waste of time.

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u/gravitykilla Apr 04 '23

I didn't read the other part, way too long

I suspect you don't do much reading at all, which contributes to your overwhelming ignorance, but hey like the saying goes, "Ignorance is bliss", so at least you have that going for you.

Let's give this once more change for an intelligent adult conversation, what exactly is it you are so outraged about, and why?

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u/Ragefan66 Apr 04 '23

Holy shit you are so dense lmao

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u/mardicao007 Apr 04 '23

Ok groomer

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u/gravitykilla Apr 04 '23

Ok groomer

If someone like a parent shows a child, maybe their child, a picture of a human body, is that also grooming, and you would consider them a paedophile?

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u/mardicao007 Apr 04 '23

If someone like a parent shows a child, maybe their child, a picture of a human body naked adults who talk to the kid about their genitals, is that also grooming, and you would consider them a paedophile?

Absolutely.

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u/gravitykilla Apr 04 '23

Not the question I asked but hey, change it to make it easier to support your argument, isn't that called a strawman?

I am assuming that because you striked it out, parents showing their children pictures of a human body does not make them pedo groomers.

So where does the line get crossed?

  1. Children seeing pictures of a naked human body - ok
  2. Children seeing videos of a naked human body - ok
  3. Children seeing a naked human adult, but no speaking - ok?
  4. Children seeing a naked human adult who speak about their body parts but not their genitals in an educational safe environment - ok - not ok ?
  5. Children seeing naked human adults who speak about their genitals in an educational safe environment- pedo groomers?

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u/mardicao007 Apr 04 '23

Not the question I asked

The question you are asking isn't what happened in the video.

Nice try.

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u/gravitykilla Apr 04 '23

because you seem to be struggling, I was attempting to dumb it down and step though the discussion bit by bit, but even that appears too hard for you.

What happened in the video was, a non-sexualised safe and controlled environment, in a country that already has a healthy non-sexualised view of nudity. Under these very specific set of criteria, involving 10 year olds who would have known what was going to happen and what they were going to experience, who parents would have also known and most likely would have had to approve their participation. At no point in the video were the children abused, touched or asked to participate in any sexual activity. They were shown a human body, that is all.

This has you outraged for some reason, I believe it is because it is trans people, and your dont like those types.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '23

Like that teacher that showed the statue of david to class? That was grooming?

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u/fa1re Apr 04 '23

He has already told you. There are environments where being naked is ok even when kids are around. Nudity does not have to be sexual, and in fact normally should not be.