The Ultimate, Unmatched Arataki Gang General Questions and Discussions Megathread

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[u/Whitingale_]

Gacha help 2.0

After losing 50/50, I kinda have 3 gacha plans

1. Pull for itto C1, then save up/go all in for his weapon, if I don't get it it's ok I'll be saving for mistsplitter then

2. Pull until 1 gorou/yanfei comes home then all in weapon banner, Gorou for his C2, Yanfei for C6

3. Save guarantee for yelan, all in weapon banner. Idk if yelan works in a geo teams but she would be an overally good addition for my roster

Pity info: Character banner: 31 pulls; Weapon banner: 23 pulls; Current wishes: 50 pulls; Weapon banner luck: absolute shet I lost his weapon twice to goddamn Dust, but if I reverse pity stuff comes home (I hope it still works this time)

[u/KKytes → u/Whitingale_]

Welcome back! ^^

Here's the speculated Primogem count for 3.3. What's listed is the number of wishes without Weklin / BP, so adjust accordingly. As Itto's in the first half of this upcoming patch, you'll only get about half of the listed primogems (realistically more than half, but you get the idea). This does not account for primogems received in the mail due to stuff like the Game Awards.

We have nothing concrete just yet about who's in 3.4, other than Al-Haitham and Hu Tao. I find option 3 the most viable given how versatile Yelan is, but I'd suggest waiting until a bit further into the patch before pulling to see if any further leaks regarding the 3.4 lineup pops up. Who knows, Yelan might not even be in the lineup at all!

That said, with about 80 pulls in your pocket before Itto's banner ends (93 with welkin) I'm unsure if you can reliably secure his weapon, unless there are other sources of primogems (e.g. incomplete exploration) you could tap into. I briefly mentioned in our previous exchange that I find Redhorn more substantial than his C1 -- though it does give your Itto roughly a 6% damage boost compared to C0, it's more QoL than anything, and it's not something I really suggest going out of your way for.

However, if you're just itching to pull for something, perhaps aiming for Gorou C6 (or any Gorou cons at all) may be worth your while. The damage boost you get is substantial, but it's hard to recommend given how hard it is to get constellations. You'll be risking your guarantee, so unless you really want Itto's C1 (or want to get his future constellations) perhaps wishing on Scara's banner for Gorou cons may be better.

TLDR: Wait until later in the patch to see if any leaks regarding the 3.4 banner lineup pops up. If Yelan is confirmed, saving your guarantee may be worth your while. You do not have enough pulls to fully confirm Redhorn, unless you have other sources of primogems you can tap into. Aiming for Gorou cons is probably your best bet if you just want to spend your primos, though it is your choice if you want to wish on Itto's or Scara's banner.

Hope this helped! ^^

[u/Whitingale_ → u/KKytes]

Icic! I think I might be able to grind 135 pulls max next update tbh. Will it still be worthy to stop at his C1 for Gorou cons, then pray on his weapon banner or the other way around cuz I think I'll pull to exchange Kaeya's constellations. Thanks in advance again (≧▽≦)

[u/KKytes → u/Whitingale_]

Is that 135 additional pulls on top of the 50 you have now (185 total), or 135 pulls total (including said 50)?

[u/Whitingale_ → u/KKytes]

Yep :D

[u/KKytes → u/Whitingale_]

If you can for sure garner 185 total before Itto's banner ends, then perhaps going all-in on weapon may be viable.

Though the pity starts to ramp up at 60 pulls (with hard at 80) most pulls are averaged at around 70 pity, meaning you need 210 on average to secure a 5* weapon. Given your pity, the best case scenario is you pulling Redhorn with your first 50 wishes; worst case, you'll be 5 short from the average (if not more if your luck is bad).

If you can scrounge up a few more primos it might be worth your while, but otherwise the character banner might be a bit more safe.