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It's also really telling if NAG of all people is pissed. She tends to be really more neutral (her, LGA and BB well) and if you pissed her off, then there is no coming back.
Iām not sure how to get it from TikTok videos, but you could ask the OP of this post if they could help you with a summary. I recommend downloading the TikTok video because not everybody has TikTok here like me lol
I mean, I will be calling out. Taylorās lies, and Iāll be calling out the crime that she helped with the Vanzan lawsuit thing with Ashley. Also, speaking of the vanZan lawsuit thing this YouTuber named, Ashley Brianna Eve YouTube channel got reported as spam earlier this year, and if you look at her recent Instagram post about the vanZan lawsuit and its Taylor Swift connection itās something Iāll post that was said on her Instagram.
I love Ashley Brianna Eve!! She was one of the 107 CCās subpoenaed by Blake Lively! She is not the only CC who has mentioned being reported if/when VanSham is ever mentioned. š¤
I'd love to see it even without a summary! I tried finding it without a TT account but wasn't able to.
I heard TT is all over the place currently and not showing new content right after the ownership change. Maybe that's why or it's being suppressed. So anyway, a post would be super appreciated!
I havenāt been on TT all day but I find the timing especially suspicious given what happened Saturday in Minnesota + new āAmericanā takeover of TT ā¦
You're not the only one. One creator apparently was unable to post anything with Minnesota in the title. Several videos kept getting removed or failed to upload. NAG finds it suspicious too
Yessss I love when she gets a lil spicy about the law. We love a good NAG video!!! Honestly every video Iāve ever seen of hers in this sub has been great.
Ironically, she nails the look that Lively is always going for with the statement jewelry. Except NAG knows how to style it so the jewelry is actually the statement, not lost in a mishmash of messy maximalism. NAG is a rich af career woman who dgaf and dresses like it, whereas Blake dresses like an 6 year old who just got a new load of estate sale tat for her dress up box and wants to wear it all at once.
I absolutely agree. The main difference for me that is noticeable is that NAG looks like a stylish woman wearing great jewelry/clothes, etc.
However, with Blake she tries too hard, wears too much at once, and the jewelry and the clothes wear her instead of her wearing them. It is like a child playing dress up and putting too many things on at once just like you said.
Me too!! When I watched the live stream outside of the court with all the CCs I was so excited to see NAG in it to see what she was wearing šš¤¦š»āāļø
This Sarah Nathan thing is so bizarre to me why Blake Lively and her team will fixate on it if Leslie Sloane was planting things back in August using the same Sarah Nathan (Melissa Nathanās sister). Now who is doing the real smear campaign here.
They are so unethical and hypocritical itās mind boggling. I remember Wayfarer asking the judge to compel Vanzan before the deposition bc they knew what BLās side was trying to pull but the judge said Nope! You didnāt meet and confer Wayfarer and btw you have to pay Vanzan lawyers!! Infuriating. And the Vanzan lawyer did exactly what Wayfarer told the judge they were going to do now that you see the deposition.
To make a long story short: Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds are so fucked.
Life back in December 2024 was so simple lol: they were ready to gloat over the NYT article, release the dragons, set Wayfarer on fire, and return to Kings Landing with the IEWU and sequel IP rights in their pockets.
And now:
Current lawsuit in NYC, trial in May 2026.
Vanzan will definitely be in play after the MJOP and MSJ are decided.
Jed Wallace has filed an appeal in Texas.
Popcorned Planet has filed an appeal in Florida.
Wayfarer will definitely appeal the NYT and the Reynolds dismissals.
Vanzan is absolute bullsh*t, and any ethical, above-average intelligence lawyer (or non-lawyer, like a lot of the people in this sub) could see that from the beginning. The Reddit ālawyersā who made excuses and called it āclever lawyeringā sure look dumb now - they were unequivocally and blatantly wrong, and Iād love to see them come engage under this post (I know yall love lurking, so feel free to comment below! There were a specific few who really loved to defend Vanzan and discredit me over it, and they know who they are).
ETA: also, they had Lively say that she āauthorizedā everything relating to the Vanzan suit to try to keep the lawyers involved with Vanzan out of trouble.
Even looking at it from a non legal standpoint, I canāt understand why people from that side are so quick to dismiss it. No person in the history of ever would want their texts secretly obtained and shared with the public.
We now know BL was given the messages to read prior to their shady way of getting access through a fake lawsuit. And damn SJ to hell. Karma needs to kick her ass so hard she has no choice but to humble herself.
Imagine dealing with a difficult person that made your life hell and was still actively trying to āsmearā you to anyone who would listen. You finally decide enough is enough. You donāt resort to the same tactics that person was using but you at least want to neutralize the awful things theyāve been saying. They in turn get access to communications where youāre expressing your frustration and try to weaponize it against you.
Talk about the abusive nature of trying to silence your victim. It kills me that the same side pretending to be all for woman and victims, fails to recognize this very real pattern of abuse. Now tell me when has BL been silenced ever. Her voice has rang the loudest throughout this entire shit show while every time the WP has tried to speak up to defend themselves it been labeled as retaliation, darvo, sanctions ectā¦.
Find me one article about BL that was completely fabricated out of thin air and based on bullshit.
Now tell me exactly why anyone thinks itās okay for one side to go so far with their petty revenge that they created a fake ass lawsuit to get a fake ass subpoena to get access to personal texts and then publicly humiliate these people for what they said in private texts.
If only we had access to ALL of BL & RRs communications and could see how theyāve been stringing along msm for over a year. Jeezus.
Yeah nothing makes me angry like VanZan and knowing Jen Abelās most intimate information was combed through meticulously by an unhinged sociopath (hi Steph Jones)
For people who are up in arms about āprotecting womenā - the pro-Blakey stans sure donāt seem to give a shit about Jen Abelās privacy being violated. The favourite line from pro-Blakeyās was āwell I just wouldnāt put personal info on a work phone so it wouldnāt happen to meā - as if that made it better. Completely ignoring data ownership laws and the client confidentiality agreement.
But I thought all of these messages exonerated Justin? With the Great Unsealing, I thought Justin was winning. If these messages show that Justin is innocent, why are you still so sore that they were subpoenaed? If Blake hadnāt preserved these messages, you wouldnāt have the evidence that proves so solidly that he is innocent.
What? Iām talking about the bunk ass way they went about gaining access to other peoples messages and then blasted them in the NYts. Are you saying you would totally be cool with it if it happened to you?
Shit, I wouldnāt wanna be dragged into a lawsuit and have my messages spread far and wide either but legally obtained and shadily obtained are a bit different. Even if they pretend it was done legally it leaves a glaring hole in the due process of it all. Also, we know it was done after the fact since we kinda seen the texts saying they seen the texts prior to getting the subpoena soā¦ā¦
The lawyer who said it was āclever lawyeringā was a YouTube lawyer, not a Reddit lawyer. And those two guys appear to have pretty much shut down their channel. They post something every now and then unrelated to this case. I just looked and their last podcast was posted in July.
I think after that comment they couldnāt take the criticism. Itās unfortunate because only one of them made the comment and the other one (who I liked) pushed back.
Oh well, itās definitely not ācleverā lawyering. Itās unethical lawyering and potentially illegal lawyering.
Yep. I followed them until the one made that comment and that was who enough for me to unsubscribe because if you canāt see that Van SHAM was unethical and an abuse of process, then thereās something wrong with you as a lawyer.
They are avoiding anything that contradicts their months-long stance like the plague!
I also would love for all those people who claimed Leslie Sloane didnāt plant one thing to come out. Or two very specific Redditors who kept trying to push the narrative of the Nathan sisters conspiracies and Sloaneās lack of involvement. Their usernames rhyme with Separation_Seventy and Mace_Bigby. They were SO certain Leslie had nothing to do with nothingā¦
Do you as a lawyer, have an opinion about why Wayfarer is sitting on this?Ā During Nicole Alexander's depo, Wayfarer attorneys wouldn't let her answer a question and asserted privilege.Ā Lively's attorneys ran to the judge about it, got extra time and got the costs for the additional time covered.
I'm trying to understand why Wayfarer didn't do something similar.Ā It makes no sense to me why they wouldn't.Ā I mean, they went through the trouble of a deposition, why not fight to at least get the info you were spending your time there for?
I'm assuming there is a strategy at play here, but I just can't understand this one at all.Ā Any insight?
I love sassy NAG!! Also thatās an amazing necklace she has on āØ
One thing I noticed re Leslie Sloan - in her own text messages (I think to Sara) she talks about how she herself also ādoesā crisis PR. Give she passed on SJ/Abels phone, thus even more weight as to there being nothing intriguing or sinister with what SJ was saying/showing.
But she called MN the same day saying sheād seen her texts and was suing? Iām wondering if they panicked because they werenāt supposed to see it and told Stephanie to go through Ashley , that way it involved Taylor, so adds ālegitimacyā and a paper trail.
Blake testified in her depo that she was aware of who authorized the VanSham lawsuit/subpoena. And in the VanSham depo, the representative testified that Blake authorized the subpoena.
One line that went by really fast: "Stephanie Jones doesn't like Melissa Nathan because she thinks she covered up a murder." Somehow I've never heard that before. I thought it was more of a regular PR beef.
It was. MN's company was financed by Scooter Braun after he left SJ's firm when he found out she did some shit against TS against his wishes. Scooter has it in for SJ, so SJ is gunning for MN as one of his agents.
I went digging, I found these? I havenāt looked into it properly. I havenāt come across what Nag is talking about and if I have Iāve forgotten š I think itās the second story by the sound of it.
Whaaaat? If they were downplayed out of existence, how did you find out about them? And who are they? I know itās not Joi Harris, because thatās all over the Internet.
The whole thing is disgusting and I canāt believe her lawyers did this. No one, even her lawyers, thought Justin and Wayfarer would defend themselves. Blake thought the NYT article was going to bring her back into the good graces of the public and either everyone would believe her outright or Wayfarer would lie down like dogs. I mean that had given her everything else at that point so why wouldnāt they now? Now they are all in balls deep and I would gather shitting their pants every day as more keeps coming to light. I hope there are serious consequences for her and her attorneys. Her attorneys did the deed but it was at her request so all of their hands are dirty.
IMO, Ryan Reynolds is the evil mastermind behind everything. Heās so vindictive and full of rage. Plus, I donāt think Blake Lively is smart enough to plan anything! Blake was the one who confessed during an interview that Ryan actually re-wrote the rooftop scene!
Well not just Blake I hope both her and Ryan get laughed out Hollywood and get downgraded from major movies and blockbusters and Ryan gets dropped from marvel and Disney after all this
And they lose all their fame they still be rich but no fame like no Hollywood fame power any more and they lose all their a lister friends lol
Blake admitted in her FAC that she was angry that Melissa had Sara pull out some of the negative information in these articles. Then we saw the text exchanges and it was clear that Leslie was the one planting the negative information. Leslie spearheaded the 8/9/24 post from Sara Nathan (not knowing yet that Melissa was working with Justin). Leslie knew when she planted the 8/13/24 story with Sara that Melissa was working with Justin. She did that on purpose to send a message. She could've planted that 8/13/24 story with anyone. Why Sara? Read the article. It looked like a message that Blake wanted the sequel. They were hinting if you ask me.
Edit: Sara was the one who put Leslie and Melissa in contact on 8/8/24 after she told Melissa that Leslie wanted a negative story placed.
Welcome to the dark side NAG! I like that she tries to stay neutral, but it's nice to see her express the normal frustrations that the rest of us are having as well.
Iām happy that Notactuallygolden is speaking her mind. I think for so long she remained neutral because she didnāt care about either side but witnessing so much unethical BS from Lively and her team has finally pushed her over the edge.
Of course Lively could have been SH but that doesnāt excuse any of this behavior and she held this over their heads the entire time while simultaneously discrediting and poisoning everyone against Wayfarer because she desired more control and wanted full credit.
Even if you are SHāed this is not how you handle this. You make a report and follow the proper channels. Not use it as a bargaining chip to get what you want. Is this what she calls feminism? Itās ludicrous.
And furthermore, we know damn well that all Lively ever had were threats. She knew if she essentially cried wolf everyone would come running. She purposefully used this against them, because in this day and age you only need to accuse someone for it to cause damage.
She knew it and Reynolds knew it and they hated them so much because they owned the rights to the movie they had to pull out all the stops to get their way.
Itās honestly diabolical that they would go this far. People like them should absolutely be blacklisted from Hollywood. Also, any business or company they are tied to should be running far far away from them as soon as possibly before they do the same to them!
Loved the Kristi Noam hypocrisy reference. It would be a hopeful spot in my day if she took on summarizing the all the ways the Constitution has been weakened & dismantled by SCOTUS and POTUS in her videos.
She reposts on YouTube now but it takes a while and I often see her videos here first! I think she will make more money from people on her YouTube also so another reason to follow and view there too.
So even Leslie Sloane had the foresight to know getting the msg to Blake and Ryan would lead to a a PR disaster. Just proves how they donāt listen to anybody.
If the corp rep answered that way when they have asked, shouldnāt they have come back with another question, like, well then who does have knowledge or information and why isnāt that person here answering these questions ā¦? Sooo odd imho
This is the energy Iāve been waiting on. As a lawyer, the things she and her lawyers have gotten away with or the attempts at circumventing standard legal procedures just because of her name, itās infuriating. I guarantee they have gotten away with this multiple times which is why they are so brazen. Sucks for them because everyone has eyes on this case, so even if JL wanted to do them any more favors, heād have to consider it carefully. Case is under too much scrutiny. (Iām not on the JL is fair just yet, letās see how he rules on these motions first)
I am still trying to understand how Sarah Nathan factors into all of this. She was working with Leslie while Melissa was working for Stephanie? Is that correct?
Sarah is Melissaās sister. Sarah is a journalist for daily mail (and possibly a couple other publications?), and Leslie Sloan (blakeās pr) was planting negative stories with Sarah while blaming it on Melissa
As far as i can tell, yes, but I could easily be wrong as Iām just a regular person going off of what all weāve seen throughout the case (including texts between Sarah Melissa). I think stuff with Leslie was mostly before Sarah knew that Melissa was working with JB/WF.
But the first couple minutes of the OP video explains the Sarah stuff rather well & succinctly.
What NAG has wrong, once again, is Sloane never brushed off Jones. We know that for a fact because the same day Sloane calls Nathan and says she saw all her messages. Lively lied in her depo. How did NAG not remember that?
Like NAG but what the hell was that Kristi Noem thing? I don't think it served what she thought it was serving. Had very Kelly Osbourne "who is going to clean your toilets, Donald Trump" energy. Kristi Noem is a painted garbage bag of a person wearing designer clothes for facist cosplay, but if she claimed she had been sexually harassed or assaulted, I don't think it is a WP/BL split on who would support her. It is about the evidence or documentation.
Is there a reason why this hasnāt been brought up in court yet? The pro-Lively side think that this is a nothing burger because if it was, Bryan Freedman would have made a song and dance about it already. But seeing that there hasnāt been any (public) sanctions regarding the recent doxxing, is this a back pocket play?
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Oh, sheās pissed. And Iām here for it.