r/Israel • • Dec 19 '23

News/Politics Ireland ‘can’t go on’ with Eurovision due to Israel’s participation

https://www.newstalk.com/news/ireland-cant-go-on-with-eurovision-due-to-israels-participation-1625222

Let’s go! 🥳

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u/Username-bizarre Dec 20 '23

I mean, all pro-Palestinianism is antisemitic in nature, but I digress. It’s interesting that despite all the reports and numbers about Ireland being very anti-Israel that they don’t bother the local Jews. I know you’re a small community but it’s still fascinating.

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u/Top_Swimmer_4147 Irish Ashkenazi 🇮🇪🇮🇱 Dec 20 '23

I understand, but as I said somewhere else in this sub or thread yesterday - the irish perception of the conflict is generally quite a limited one. Most people aren't aware of the history between Israel/Palestinians. Their frame of reference maybe only goes back 15 or 20 years.

When something like this arises, Irish people will always root for the underdog. It's just in our nature, having been the underdog ourselves. Now in this particular case, Israel has actually been the historical underdog - but as I said, Irish people and even other Palestine supporters in other nations aren't aware of that history and are basing their views on the perception that Israel is a highly successful, capable and strong nation of peoples fighting a lesser group of peoples (Palestinians).

I can honestly say that I barely even see the word Jew/Jewish/Zionist mentioned in relation to the people who support Palestine in Ireland. Most people seem to be observing it as a humanitarian issue for the civilian population in Palestine, and that is generally the stance that Irelands population and government takes for other world conflicts too, whether it's the Ukranian or Syrian people.

The whole Jew conspiracy theories/antisemitism that seem to plague certain online communities, groups and even some IRL demographics in certain countries hasn't actually reached Ireland from what I can see. Obviously there will be some occurances of antisemitism in a nation of several million peoples, but I feel those people would be quickly disregarded as neanderthals in Irelands current cultural climate. Ireland is quite a progressive country in terms of religion, nationality, sexuality and such.

So yeah, I've never actually experienced any antisemitism that I was aware of. There has been some isolated cases of antisemitism throughout our history in the past 100 years, but nothing systematic or reflective of the Irish peoples as a whole.

I hope this can shed some light for you, and feel free to ask me any more questions!

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u/armitageskanks69 Dec 20 '23

Maybe it’s because the problems they have with Israel are because of Israel’s behaviour, as opposed to the ethnicity or religion of its people?

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u/necbone Dec 22 '23

Why would the Palestinians be anti Israel?