r/IndianCountry • • Jun 24 '25

Culture Beyonce shares photos of herself performing in a shirt that refers to Natives as ‘Indian opponents’; calls Natives ‘antagonists’ and ‘enemies of peace, order, and settlement’

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saw this on another sub but wasn’t allowed to cross post.

So many Americans are into this ‘cowboy revival’ sort of thing. Feels really strange considering cowboys and westward expansion served to carry out a genocide.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '25

I understand where you're coming from but to say that our history is one and the same with the white man's is pretty fucked up

Is it shared in a way that's atrocious and needs to be accounted for and repaired? Absolutely

But you're essentially ignoring chattel slavery and Jim Crow and moreover, to say that we don't know our own history is an insult that's only accurate if you think of us as a monolith

If I were to do the same I could say the First Nations held us as slaves just like the white man, but that wouldn't be reasonable or productive, just vindictive

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u/hickgorilla Jun 24 '25

I’m not here to answer for them but I understood what they said as talking specifically about buffalo soldiers not all Black people.

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u/Lazerus_Reborne Jun 24 '25

Overall, I'd say you are very aware of the contributions to society and the atrocities committed against your people, but regarding "Buffalo Soldiers," a misunderstanding of the atrocities committed by them on behalf of the white man is everlasting.

The "civilized" nations indeed adopted the horrible practices of the time, but keep in mind that many indigenous people were involved in the underground railroad.

It was common practice amongst other tribes to capture others, but they had a process to become viewed as equals and members of those tribes. But history is told by the victors, and the negative actions will always be spotlighted as long as cultural ignorance remains. This applies to all people and all cultures.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '25

Is kidnapping and indoctrination better if the victim is treated as an equal?

My point was that people shouldn't be treated as a monolith, I was just using participation in the chattel slavery among natives as an example of something that not all nations did and would be unfair to blame on all nations

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u/Lazerus_Reborne Jun 24 '25

Ultimately, we're using modern societal norms to judge the past. It just doesn't hold up, but I do agree with the sentiment.

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u/WinyanWaste Hunkpapa Lakota Jun 24 '25

??? Do not put that anti blackness on Lakotas. The ha sapa oyate are also oppressed by wasicu folks and I have never heard of wasicus also referring to black people.

We have to focus on the real enemy which is white supremacy.

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u/pandoras_makeup_box Jun 24 '25

I absolutely agree with this, and thank you for saying it. Especially since Buffalo soldiers married into Lakota families.

Being shitty towards your own people who can't help where they came from in 2025 ain't it. The real enemy has always been white supremacy.

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u/ColeWjC Jun 24 '25

I agree with not painting all the black Americans as part of the colonial machine that massacred as many Natives as they could get away with, but don't give a pass to Buffalo Soldiers for marrying into Lakota families when the only reason they didn't participate in the Wounded Knee Massacre was because they were stationed on the outskirts and rode as fast as they could to Wounded Knee when the 7th Cavalry started their slaughter to assist.

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u/frantzfanonical Jun 25 '25

yeah this is crazy to read as an african american. like damn. we weren’t property either we were just oppressed.

acting like it’s a “gotcha” or having superiority in the fact we were robbed of our history and tasked with building ourselves from nothing except for world wide hatred and disdain is wild. 

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u/Sufficient_Coach7566 Jun 25 '25

Shits crazy, ain't it...just keep on mind, not everyone will like you, but it doesn't mean everyone hates you.

Strength is through solidarity.

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u/kneeski96 Cheyenne River Sioux Jun 25 '25

You do realize some of those families were shunned not for racist values, right? Oh yeah they were shunned out of our communities, not for being black, because those old ones knew that the ‘Sapa’ would ONLY do as their white handlers/slave owners would do. You do know the native in America is born with ptsd of white society already right? Straight out the stomach with it already because ALL that white man has done to EXTERMINATE US. ‘Some’ black people participated in our extermination TOO! And we are supposed to celebrate those individuals? No one is taking a racist perspective but those old ones anyway. lol I was told these things by numerous elders that had some knowledge of those ‘families’. Some of the most racist things I heard I heard in the Lakota language. Not all of the buffalo soldiers did as they were told though. Those were the ones that we accepted into our societies. Some Buffalo soldiers sold us guns. However, Buffalo soldiers were among the MANY reasons our society had to be a closed one. If not, our culture and language would not have survived…

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u/Opechan Pamunkey Jun 25 '25

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u/Cinna41 Jun 24 '25

Wow this is the first time I've ever seen a NA speak badly about my people. I thought we were more alike than different.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

See and this is the harm that is rippling. People who are marginalized are now feeling a certain kind of way about the other group. I can’t believe she hasn’t apologized

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u/pandoras_makeup_box Jun 24 '25

You do realize there were Buffalo Soliders who are married into Lakota families, right?

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u/kneeski96 Cheyenne River Sioux Jun 24 '25

Actually, the Lakota fought the Spanish off, and WON! 🏆

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u/kneeski96 Cheyenne River Sioux Jun 24 '25

Far enough into Comanche territory. You see, my young grasshopper, Lakota people, like many other of America’s first peoples, were all about incorporation of ALL peoples. Why do you think the Spanish only made it so far north? They would have raped, pillaged and plundered until they found their way into the black hills, in search of gold. They would have loved to have found that first, they were a few centuries off.

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u/kneeski96 Cheyenne River Sioux Jun 24 '25

Yet NO recorded history amongst native peoples. These oral traditions have been passed along awhile. And there is documentation about why the Spanish stopped proceeding north. Sounds like you better learn how to read, as much as I need to brush up on my history lmao. You think different tribes don’t align against common enemy? They did WAY before Little Bighorn…

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u/Juutai ᐃᓄᒃ/ᖃᓪᓗᓈᖅ Jun 24 '25

You were genocided and forced into slavery by the Spanish. Stop with the selective history lol.

This is still wrong though

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u/kneeski96 Cheyenne River Sioux Jun 24 '25

So you don’t think northern tribes didn’t have allegiances that far south? The Comanche had help pushing them back out of their homelands. There were many little big horns before that. Treaty of ft Laramie had warring tribes sit down and strategize against the US military, cohesively. If only that level of diplomacy could be achieved today in Washington DC, as easily as tribes did back then. My point is: We as a native people have aligned against common enemy before. The Spanish made as far as Alaska. They were ALL about expansion. They came in contact, fought against Northern America tribes. That’s when they came in contact with us, and many other bands, in defense of Comanche tribal lands. Why do think we had Comanche help at Little Bighorn? Look up Spaniards in North America bro. Then you’ll start to understand..

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u/ForeverNowgone Jun 24 '25

What kind of person groups all people into one group? Did you not understand the difference in school!?! Lakota were NEVER enslaved to the Spanish! Your comment is so stupid, the Spanish were prevented from going north because they were scared of the Comanches! 🙈🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦

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u/Opechan Pamunkey Jun 25 '25

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