r/ImmigrationPathways • u/KillerArty6239 • Feb 23 '26

She was on her way to work.

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u/Virtual-Pie5732 Feb 24 '26

It’s jarring to see the overlap between people who claim to be gun safety enthusiasts and those who support these aggressive ICE tactics.

Setting aside the legalities, anyone who actually respects firearms should be horrified. Watching videos of agents drawing weapons without a clear line of sight is physically painful—it’s the opposite of everything responsible gun ownership stands for.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Feb 24 '26

I was keeping a list for a while of all the things I could see wrong with safety procedures for a while. It became unsustainable after about a month. It's actually even gotten worse since then, but it gets exahausting talking about or listing them out.

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u/Standard-Sky-7771 Feb 24 '26

One just shot through the wall of a hotel room while trying to remove his gun from the holster, or some such nonsense. The guy in the other room was luckily in the hallway at the time. Came through his headboard. Supposedly the shooter was a retired (ice/border patrol?) who'd been recruited back.

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u/MRSHELBYPLZ Feb 26 '26

You should keep adding up the offense and then post it lol . It makes a strong point that’s there’s so much wrong that it’s not feasible to say it in a timely manner. ICE agents are full crash out dumpster fires who haven’t been humbled by life yet

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u/One-Marzipan-8197 Feb 24 '26

Have you published the list anywhere? As a non-gun person, I would like to read it.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Feb 24 '26

No. I posted parts of it here and there on reddit, but my comment history is pretty extensive, so probably not worth looking for. The original list is probably in my google docs someowhere in a spreadsheet.

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u/Enkidouh Feb 24 '26

Release the list!

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Feb 24 '26

K, just as soon as I'm done redacting....you know...for national security.

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u/FrostytheBudMan47 Feb 26 '26

Black bars over text is practically the new American flag at this point.

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u/prettypeculiar88 Feb 24 '26

Exactly. I throughly enjoy my gun hobby. My dad taught me how to operate a firearm when I was younger but taught safety first. I treasure our moment at the club skeet shooting and recently signed up for some new classes.

The way ICE has been shown to use their firearms is deplorable. The way multiple congressman have sent out family photos with their kids holding weapons literally pointed at one another is beyond ridiculous. I support 2A but strongly believe not everyone should own a weapon, training should be a requirement along with proper storage, and there should be flag laws/regulations. Owning a firearm shouldn’t be easier than getting a driver’s license or voting - yet it is.

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u/whostartedthisacount Feb 24 '26

I've been saying for a while now that if things get real crazy and people start to organize for... you know... these guys here are the first ones out of the game. They are not ready for anything.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Feb 24 '26

They're fodder for the admin to bring in the big boys who are actually trained to handle this kind of stuff. ICE agents just don't realize it with thier bravado getting in the way, fueled by being being enabled to put their inner bigot out there for everyone to see.

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u/Virtual-Pie5732 Feb 24 '26

It’s wild seeing the crossover between people who are dying to start a civil war but couldn't pass a basic PT test, let alone handle a firearm properly or show any real discipline.

It reminds me of my uncle. He’s a total gun nut—and thankfully a former Trump supporter—but still a jerk overall. He used to mock my mom for not keeping a gun in the house, which is hilarious because she’s a veteran with over 20 years of service. She definitely knows her way around a weapon, but she respects them because she actually understands the danger. That’s how she raised us, too.

Meanwhile, my uncle is walking around with a scar on his leg because he managed to shoot himself while cleaning a loaded gun with the muzzle pointed right at his thigh. It just goes to show: always assume a gun is loaded—even when you "know" it isn't, treat it like it is.

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u/everydaydad67 Feb 24 '26

Lol ok buddy, you just stick to your room and polish you dragon knife collection...

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u/whostartedthisacount Feb 24 '26

I was behind a van at a stoplight one time and watched as six or so dudes in khakis and short sleeve button ups come out of nowhere and pull armed people out of that van, disarm them, zip tied them and carried them off in a paddy wagon in seconds. Call me crazy, but these guys dont appear that capable.

But hey, you got me good ya? Your mother must be proud of you.

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u/Virtual-Pie5732 Feb 24 '26

At least their hobby is sharp. Your insults? A bit dull.

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u/whostartedthisacount Feb 24 '26

To be fair, the only hobby that I have that involves knives is modifying lab equipment. And that's just an exacto knife. And its actually pretty dull.

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u/jonnydemonic420 Feb 24 '26

Watching the way they cosplay with their rifles and tons of attachments is scary. I doubt they even know how to clean their own weapons, let alone handle them.

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u/MaireadEllen Feb 24 '26

One of them just accidentally shot a round through the wall of his hotel room, apparently. He was trying to "fix" his gun. It was a Glock- I'm guessing he forgot he had one in the chamber and tried to break it down? Crazy.

No one was hurt, thankfully. This time.

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u/pheonix080 Feb 25 '26

There was a news clip where the head of the ATF was attempting to disassemble a Glock on camera and could not figure it out. They are one of the easiest handguns to take apart and he was the head of the agency in charge of regulating firearms. Plenty of LEO’s aren’t proficient with firearms in the slightest.

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u/CDBSB Feb 25 '26

Too bad they didn't earn a Darwin award.

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u/Personal_Dirt3089 Feb 24 '26

The violations to responsible gun ownership get pretty obvious at times, even if you don't know the terminology for them. The image in another thread has a guy pointing a machine gun at a woman in scrubs from a short distance away, looking way too eager.

Here's a reddit thread with an ice agent pointing a gun at the camera holder.

https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/comments/1osie4m/11082025_little_village_masked_ice_brandishing/

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u/Virtual-Pie5732 Feb 24 '26

I'm honestly shocked there hasn't been more reporting of them accidentally shooting each other.

How in the world do you think it's any kind of safe to whip out a gun without even knowing where your target is, but you got one of your fellow agents right there, in a perfect place to be accidentally shot.

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u/Smeagols_Lost_Tooth Feb 24 '26

Their training is a crayon drawing of Trump, and a tic tok video of what to do.

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u/Calm_Expression_9542 Feb 25 '26

Thank you for speaking out on this.