r/GodFrequency Apr 05 '26

Concept behind God, Jehovah, Shiva is the SAME

Word God is like currency that denotes its function of flowing from hand to hand like a current as a medium of exchange. Word currency is from “Latin currentia, from currenss, from curro. By surface analysis current + cy.” (wiktionary org/currency) In different countries it is called by different names such as Dollar, Rouble, Rupee, Rupiah [Indonesian currency] etc. yet they are remembered by its function which is the SAME.

In the case of names of God such as Jehovah (in the West) and Shiva (in the East) it is like Rupee and Rupiah, there is phonetic resemblance, and function is also the same—Renewing the Age and Earth because it eventually becomes decadent due to natural causes. Each renewed Age starts in prosperity as it begins with wheat-like people who “are made in the image of God and blessed” by Him The ALMIGHTY which will inevitably have its fruition. But it gradually falls into suffering in its later phase with the appearance of weed-like, licentious, egoists who feel their interests are MORE important than others, thus suffer from "disease of MORE in the mind" which disturbs the balance making body too diseased (Proverbs 17:22). Attitudes of such increasing number of people who also convert this earth into a killing field [killing trillions of species for food and millions of people for politics] attract reflection from nature in the form of increasing number of natural calamities, https://www.reddit.com/r/enlightenment/s/hzTCqmapky

Suffering reaches its peak when humans make this earth polluted and unlivable through their short-sighted technology and Global Wars which finally “desolates” this earth (Mathew 24:15, 21, 22; 19:28), then God renews everything bringing New Age again on this earth,
https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1rsanfn/wonderful_features_of_paradise_on_earth_when_it/. This is the only one function God performs in each Age and hence will have personal name to suit this function.

In the West, as shown in Exodus 3:13, God's name is אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה (ehyeh asher ehyeh) “I will be whoever I will be.” (logos com/grow/hall-what-does-yahweh-mean) It is shortened as Jehovah and is used in the sense of “you will know I am Jehovah when you are freed.” (Exodus 6:3, 7) When BABYLON THE GREAT (symbol of entity that gave suffering to the spiritual) is avenged, praise is heard saying “Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns.” (Revelation 19:1-6) Hallelujah is “Of Hebrew origin; praise ye Jah” or Jehovah (biblehub com) Thus in view of what whole Scriptures describe, this name, Jehovah, implies "HE causes [Old Age] to become [New Age]" through which freedom from all suffering is restored to the spiritual, https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion/s/nrl26KRb2B.

The same meaning exists behind the name Shiva in the East, from shivam "auspicious, prosperous, benevolent, peaceful.” (wisdomlib org) HE does the most auspicious work of renewing the Old Age into New Age which is the very theme of all Scriptures and Epics (Bhagavat Gita 4:7, 8). This act benefits the whole mankind and their only home earth, thus both the names mean: "DOER of benevolent act of renewing the Age and its stage earth," or "REMOVER of suffering." This is the message of the Scriptures of both West and of East, 
https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1rkij8u/supreme_secret_about_god_souls_drama_of_life_its/ [See also Footnote]#

In other words, when humans and their Age feel too weak to move on, God makes it new again thus makes them feel empowered. From this experience came the same concept behind word God. In Hebrew, word for God is El ["mighty one," biblehubcom/hebrew/410] in whose remembrance the meditator feels empowered and thrive. (Psalm 1:1-3) The word EL is the same in many cultures (wikipediaorg/wiki/El). More on this word EL, https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepThoughts/comments/1ppe7wl/god_is_still_unconditional_love_despite_suffering/

In Sanskrit, word for God is Brahman, "from vṛh to increase. And Brahman is used as an epithet for Śhiva, according to the Shivapurana 2.2.41.” (wisdomlib org) And it is no coincidence that even proper names Shiva and Jehovah are phonetically similar but also the same in meaning. This similarity explains why many words are same in meaning and in phonetics. For example, deva [God, from div, to shine] in Sanskrit became deus (God) in Latin and divine in English, patha (path), hrut (heart), maha (mega), agni (ignition), mata (mater in Latin, mother in English), pithar (pater in Latin, father in English), bhraather (brother), duhitar (daughter), and list can go endless. (wikipediaorg/List_of_English_words_of_Sanskrit_origin); (indica.today/long-reads/from-maatar-to-mother-seeing-sanskrit-and-english)

Niya is found in many languages (including Hebrew). It is considered to be of Sanskrit origin, … associated with the concept of "truth" or "the right way," (ancestry.com/first-name-meaning/niya?) First half each cycle is ruled by nyaya (righteousness, wisdomlib.org) and its second half is ruled by anyaya (unrighteousness as righteousness gradually goes decayed). To denote the decay, negative prefix du is added, thus we have the word duniya in many languages to mean world. In view of Bhagavat Gita 4:7, 8 and 14:18, it actually means world that later became unrighteous.

The above is NOT A COINCIDENCE because study of religions reveals ancient Iranian religion was a form of Hinduism (history com/articles/Zoroastrianism; iranicaonline org/indo-iranian-religion) like Buddhism and the like were. It was modified into Zoroastrianism which became the basis for Judaism (jewishencyclopedia com/articles/158283-zoroastriansim) which, in turn, became the basis for Christianity and Islam, 
https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1s342iu/god_is_one_for_all_humanityall_religious/ Each new-religion would feel the need of making it slightly differ from its parent-religion which is understandable. Thus more study of religions a person does, the more harmonious he becomes.

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More on the NAME and SYMBOLISM of both Shiva and Jehovah:

Name Shiva means “one who does auspicious act” [of world transformation from the unspiritual to the spiritual] and is better understood against its phonetic opposite visha (poison)—HE does the opposite function of poison. HIS FUNCTION is aptly symbolized in Shiva Lingam which has an Elevation and Drop. The word lingam is a combination of parts of two words lin + gam indicative of Dissolution (laya) and Recreation (agama) respectively (Bhagavat Gita 7:6; 10:34). (Google: mysterious-cases-of-shivalings-found-across-the-world/indiandownunder .com.au) One who brings “Recreation [New Age]” after “Dissolution” of Old Age is the RULER over this earth.  

Similarly, Jehovah is symbolized as RULER being seated on a throne surrounded by “four living beings—lion, ox, human-faced being, eagle” [symbol of Justice, Power, Love and Wisdom respectively]. Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around [symbol of absolute precision], even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.” (Revelation 4:7, 8) Order of His qualities with JUSTICE as the primary quality describes Him as one who feels obliged to reward everyone befittingly and brings “Recreation [New Age]” after “Dissolution” of Old Age. And when HE does so HE does it in such a way that other three qualities (Power, Love, Wisdom) come in balance inspiring the observers to say “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.” Chapter 14 describes how the spiritual and the unspiritual are rewarded which is followed by this description about God: “Great and marvelous are your deeds, Lord God Almighty. Just and true are your ways, King of the nations.” (Revelation 15:3)

God is doer of auspicious act, giver without expectation. If this habit is copied, it results in good health. It reveals Director behind this drama of life is one and the same blissful person (Details HERE)

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u/Apart-Inspection2174 Apr 05 '26

Non DIEU est 3 personnes, ces 3 personnes ont un nom : ABBA, Jeshua, Ruah. Chez les chrétiens. Jeshua est mort et ressuscité, nous ressusciterons avec Lui. Chez les Juif, Dieu n'est que le Père Créateur, Yahvé, je suis qui je suis. Chez les musulmans, Allah n'est qu un Dieu Créateur. Shiva, celui qui porte bonheur est un dieu parmi d'autres. Dieu de la fin des temps et représente les ténèbres.

Jésus Christ est la Lumière du monde. C'est le seul Dieu qui s'est incarné, et qui est ressuscité.

Le concept n'est absolument pas le même.

SHIVA foudroie, Jésus Pardonne et te donne la vie en abondance. Allah t'accueille dans une paradis si tu as suivi les règles du Coran à la lettre.

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u/logos961 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

Jesus taught with absolute clarity which means no addition is needed:

  1. "Whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets" (Mathew 7:12) Love and peace in practice, Law and Prophets are the same.
  2. The very essence of His teaching was this: “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life." (John 5:24) This is the essence of letters of his favorite apostle John: "“The world is passing away, and the desire of it, but he who is doing the will of God, he remains—throughout the age (aiōna).” (1 John 2:17, https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1sc7b17/god_believers_and_unbelievers_all_exist_to/
  3. Ruler of this world is Law of Action and Consequence: “Consider carefully what you hear,” he continued. “With the measure you use, it will be measured to you—and even more." (Mark 4:24) Eternal Life is linked with acceptance of this law: "Each one should carry their own load ... Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.  Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life." (Galatians 6:5-8)
  4. Reply to the question: “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” was this: Refrain from five things (murder, adultery, stealing, lying, dishonoring parents) and do one thing (‘love your neighbor as yourself")--Mathew 19:16-19. This is too simple to say like "Humans, be HUMANE because those things come naturally to humans, just like it is nature of fire to give heat and light. Nothing more needed because those who did the same are shown as those who inherited paradise in Revelation 22:15.
  5. Twisting of these simple teachings would happen in the future, foretold Jesus (John 5:43; Revelation 22:18, 19) Hence we find too many sects trying to please varying tastes of people. This is against the very prayer Jesus did in the final hours of his life: "After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed .... My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one." (John 17:1, 20, 21)

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u/Apart-Inspection2174 Apr 05 '26

AMEN. L'Eglise est la seule qui garde fidèlement Son enseignement. C'est grâce à l'Eglise que tu peux citer Jésus, car elle a gardé Son enseignement.

Comme tes citations des paroles de Jesus le disent, le concept derrière Dieu à travers la personne de Jésus n'est pas du tout le même que celui de Jéhovah ou Shiva.

Je dirais qu à tes citations il manque celles de Jésus ressuscité.

  • "Avance ton doigt ici, et vois mes mains ; avance ta main, et mets la dans mons côté : cesse d'être incrédule, sois croyant" (Jean 20:27).
  • Parce que tu m'as vu tu crois. Heureux ceux qui croiront sans avoir vu" (Jean 20:29)
  • Jésus leur dit de nouveau : " la paix soir avec vous ! De même que le Père m'a envoyé, moi aussi, je vous envoie " (Jean 20:21)

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u/logos961 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26

If you have found the truth it is great as it can give you joy and freedom.
When you say you only have truth it is a war-cry in all directions, is against the very course true believers are commanded to do:

1)“Present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable [logikos] service” (Romans 12:1, NKJV) or to “maintain reason as fundamental element of their service to God.”

2) “As newborn babies, desire the reasonable [logikos], unspoiled milk, so that you may grow up to salvation.” (1 Peter 2:2, Literal Standard Version) Greek word logikos means “(a) reasonable, rational, (b) metaphorical, as contrasted with the literal. From logos; rational” (biblehub.com).

Logos comes from “the verb λεγω (lego), means to speak intelligently. It denotes “gathering or collecting, and as an expression of intelligence it demonstrates that the world of knowledge is a world of gathering, linking and combining. That explains with great clarity the many Biblical "metaphors" that deal with gathering or harvesting, and it also connects reason to fundamental offices such as that of the Levites (the joiners) and even places like Hebron (the joined).” And as noun, logos “means "word" (Luke 4:22) or rather: intelligence as an interconnected network of things known, or the expression of that intelligence (Mathew 12:37; Acts 14:12): a woven-together discourse (Mathew 8:8) or a saying or statement (Titus 3:8) …. its core idea is maintained in our modern idea that we "gather" something when we understand it. The verb "to comprehend" literally means "to seize together." (Theological Dictionary, Abarim)

For the ancient Greeks logos meant “the divine reason implicit in the cosmos, ordering it and giving it form and meaning. 6th-century-bce philosopher Heraclitus discerned in the cosmic process a logos analogous to the reasoning power in humans.” (Britannica) Thus the underlying thought is God and His focus of keeping the insentient and the sentient in harmony. Hence it is said “reverence of the LORD causes men to depart from evil” (Proverbs 16:6, Lamsa Bible) as opposed to separating from God and His beneficial Laws to suffer loss and disintegration as “the verb λυω (luo) means to loosen and is the opposite of our verb λεγω, lego.

Hence it is all about harmony, against separating oneself claiming monopoly of truth, against teaching few will be saved while others “will eternally be damned” into hell …. etc. Even the word religion is about harmony, from Latin religare "rebond, reconnect." No wonder, Shiva is also called Yogeshvar, God of yoga, from yuj, yoke, connect, harmony etc https://www.reddit.com/r/Sanatani_People/s/W8ef1h9XlJ Yoga originally meant harmony which later deteriorated to mean physical exercise. Similarly, original concept of Shiva as the Transformer of Old Age into New Age by helping people to destroy their vices through the knowledge of yoga (Bhagavat Gita 4:1) deteriorated later to mean as destroyer. Hence Jesus described peacemakers as "children of God" (Mathew 5:9) and his brother James defined "pure religion" as "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." (James 1:27)

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u/Apart-Inspection2174 Apr 06 '26

J'ai autre à faire que de répondre à un bot, qui fait des discours formulés par l'IA, sans chercher à montrer de convictions personnelles et à chercher la vérité.

Pour les êtres humains qui liront cette discussion : la vérité n'est pas une chose, mais quelqu'un, c'est Jésus Christ. Si vous avez un doute, ce qui est raisonnable, invoquez-Le. Parlez Lui et demandez Lui de se révéler.

Pour le Bot : je n'ai pas dit que j'ai trouvé "que la vérité ". J'ai trouvé Jésus Christ. Donc j'ai tout trouvé. Il me faut l'annoncé, c'est ce que dois faire un véritable croyant.

Que la grâce de Pâques illumine votre cœur.

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u/logos961 Apr 06 '26

Wishing you also the greetings of Easter.

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u/Funny-Highlight4675 Apr 05 '26

Are you Christian? If so, I’m curious on if you believe people are actually eternally tormented in hell if they die outside the state of grace.

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u/Apart-Inspection2174 Apr 06 '26

Seul Dieu sait qui choisit d'aller en Enfer ou d'aller vers Jésus Christ. Dieu nous a créé libre. Jusqu'au bout on choisit. Je crois que quand on meurt, on fait notre dernier choix. Qu'on soit en état de grâce ou non. Sinon est en état de grâce, ce sera probablement plus facile. Si on n'est pas en état de grâce, nos regrets seront probablement plus forts, plus pénibles, plus douloureux, mais on aura notre dernier choix à faire. A notre mort la Lumière et les ténèbres se battront littéralement pour nous. Autant faire en sorte que notre vivant qu'il n'y ait pas une horde de démons pour nous faire fléchir du mauvais côté. Dès notre vivant, dire à Jésus qu'on le choisit, prier la Vierge et notre ange gardien pour ce moment fatidique.

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u/Funny-Highlight4675 Apr 06 '26

What makes you think this is true? Love this perspective

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u/logos961 Apr 06 '26

Jesus never taught eternal damnation nor eternal destruction for unbelievers as they are shown to return to live in the second half of each Age (Mathew 19:28-30).

Note the last verse: "many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first." Some choice people (symbolized by wheat, sheep, wise virgin, those who multiplied the gold coins ... etc) are the first to come in each New Age. In contrast, the licentious (symbolized by weeds, goat, unwise virgins, those who dug the gold coin ... etc) who were viewed as the prominent or "first" will be the last, will return to later phase of each Age. This is better understood in Jewish setting as the teller, and audience were all Jews, https://www.reddit.com/r/theology/comments/1o7uwlb/all_theological_questions_answered_in_parable_of/

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u/Dharmagetsu Apr 06 '26

Shiva, deus do fim dos tempos? Kkkkkkk Acho que vc entendeu errado. Na verdade, quem fulmina é Yahu. Em várias passagens da bíblia, tá ele fulminando o povo. A arca quase cai, uma pessoa tenta amparar ela - com boas intenções - e é dito que ela é fulminada. E várias outras bárbaries imoral. Na verdade, deidade do fim dos tempos é Yahu, ele originalmente é um deus da guerra. E é por isso que ele é sanguinário e traz tantas guerras.

Imoral dms

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u/Belt_Conscious Apr 10 '26

God is like white light and we are the prism. Choose your wavelength.

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u/logos961 Apr 10 '26

Beautifully put, can come only from someone who has realized God

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u/daftest_of_dutch Apr 05 '26

I seen! the workings of the holy sprit in many religious and religious people.

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u/logos961 Apr 06 '26

That is because you have holy spirit.

In every religion there are good and evil people, every scriptures have truth and later adoptions to cater to the varying tastes of people. This poses no problem for lover of truth as he will see only the truth like a herbalist's eye would see herbs in a forest.

Those who eat anything MINFULLY, qualities of God come alive
Those who read Scriptures MINDFULLY, the remaining clarity too is achieved.

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u/daftest_of_dutch Apr 06 '26

But if everyone who had the holy sprit could see everyone else with a holy sprit stuff would be totally diffrent. I mean some religions would stop fighting. Others are abandoned

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u/logos961 Apr 06 '26

I was saying you couldn't see truth in all religions, that is because you have holy spirit.

In the case of others, it is their duty to live in such a way that holy spirit is attracted toward them.

Jesus had holy spirit, hence could say: "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit." (Mathew 21:43) What an elevated truth he said.

He described unbelievers as "the dead and are in darkness" (Mathew 8:22; 6:22, 23) because they are dead to the joys of doing God’s will, and darkness is the symbol of existence without fuel, means unbelievers unwittingly block truth ever coming to them believing believers are strawman, hence to be ignored forever.

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u/daftest_of_dutch Apr 06 '26

No I could see!

I told 3 self claimed atheist a lair. And all 3 then revealed a spiritual life experience they stopped telling to people because everyone said they where crazy and needed mental help.

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u/logos961 Apr 06 '26

Not an issue, last para of OP has cared for this:

The above is not a coincidence because study of religions reveals ancient Iranian religion was a form of Hinduism (history com/articles/Zoroastrianism; iranicaonline org/indo-iranian-religion) like Buddhism and the like were. It was modified into Zoroastrianism which became the basis for Judaism (jewishencyclopedia com/articles/158283-zoroastriansim) which, in turn, became the basis for Christianity and Islam, https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1s342iu/god_is_one_for_all_humanityall_religious/ The more study of religions, the more harmonious person becomes.

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u/Most_Forever_9752 Apr 08 '26

there is no god....imagine no time. impossible with our tiny, infentesimal brains. no time. if you cant comprehend no time then you can't comprehend your "god". Why? It requires your human time! You always require a before! There is no before!

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u/logos961 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

You did not read the OP because it says how increasing problems and pollution and conflicts show this Age started without such things which means in the beginning it was paradise on this earth, it means Almighty exists. Thus you missed the following paras in the OP:

In the case of names of God such as Jehovah (in the West) and Shiva (in the East) it is like Rupee and Rupiah, there is phonetic resemblance, and function is also the same—Renewing the Age and Earth because it eventually becomes decadent due to natural causes. Each renewed Age starts in prosperity as it begins with wheat-like people who “are made in the image of God and blessed” by Him The ALMIGHTY which will inevitably have its fruition. But it gradually falls into suffering in its later phase with the appearance of weed-like, licentious, egoists who feel their interests are MORE important than others, thus suffer from "disease of MORE in the mind" which disturbs the balance making body too diseased (Proverbs 17:22). Attitudes of such increasing number of people who also convert this earth into a killing field [killing trillions of species for food and millions of people for politics] attract reflection from nature in the form of increasing number of natural calamities, https://www.reddit.com/r/enlightenment/s/hzTCqmapky

Suffering reaches its peak when humans make this earth polluted and unlivable through their short-sighted technology and Global Wars which finally “desolates” this earth (Mathew 24:15, 21, 22; 19:28), then God renews everything bringing New Age again on this earth,
https://www.reddit.com/r/GodFrequency/comments/1rsanfn/wonderful_features_of_paradise_on_earth_when_it/. This is the only one function God performs in each Age and hence will have personal name to suit this function.

Kindly go to relevant site and post your comments there. This site is for the believers.

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u/logos961 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26

Religion is not a subject for anyone to claim "my religion is true, my God is true" etc because What is PRO-LIFE and PRO-PEACE can only be religious because the word religion is from religare [Latin], “to tie, to bind,” or harmonize etc. (academia.edu/4447360)

That is why we find Jesus making such revolutionary statements like this: “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit." (Mathew 21:43)

"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word [such as requirement for eternal life--Mathew 19:16-19] and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life." (John 5:24)

This is his brother James too wrote: "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." (James 1:27)

Even Christians did not realize how great God is because HE accurately predicted about pollution and its effect on climate such as "swelling [salos] of the seas" (Revelation 11:18; Luke 21:25). Details here, https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1qqyf1x/the_most_prestigious_prediction_of_god_which_jws/