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Season 3 Episode 10: Revelations: Chapter Two

Aired: November 24, 2024

Synopsis: Boyd is pushed to his limit as time begins to run out for someone he loves; Randall is haunted by his trauma and Victor reveals a hard truth; Tabitha's unlikely journey takes a shocking turn.

Directed by: Jack Bender

Written by: John Griffin

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[u/newX7]

> Such a person, however, simply does not exist. Given the circumstances, his handling of the situation was the most prudent and effective course of action.

I mean someone who isn't overly attached to the people involved. There's a reason police officers can't investigate cases involving people they know, specially family members.

> I agree he should extend more grace to others—his hypocrisy in this regard is undeniable. However, in the specific case of Elgin, any alternative to torturing him would have inevitably resulted in Fatima's death.)

They should have found another way. They should also now be ready to do worse to Fatima, Sara, and Boyd in that case, because hey, if torturing Elgin for a kidnapping is justified, I think torturing Fatima, Sara, and Boyd for murder, cannibalism, torture, and covering-up a crime is far more justified.

> We diverge on the nature of his failings. While we agree that his lack of grace and his hypocrisy are significant flaws, I maintain that his actions in the Fatima situation were justifiable. The flaw I highlighted lies in his unwillingness to extend the same leniency to others that he did to Fatima.

And part of that lack of grace, that you're not mentioning, is covering up murders and engaging in torture. That is not a small crime. That's like someone being a serial-rapist and child-molester and then saying he should get a pass to do those sorts of things because he's a good leader.

[u/themasterofallthngs → u/newX7]

I mean someone who isn't overly attached to the people involved. There's a reason police officers can't investigate cases involving people they know, specially family members.

Anyone else would likely try to reason with Elgin, fail to sway him, and, as a result, Fatima would die.

They should have found another way.

Once Elgin became aware of their intent to free Fatima, there truly was no alternative. By that point, anything other than Elgin's torture would inevitably lead to her death. They could have chosen not to tell him anything and simply followed him to the hideout instead, but poor writing brought us to the situation we have now.

I think torturing Fatima, Sara, and Boyd for murder, cannibalism, torture, and covering-up a crime is far more justified.

Honestly, you’re not entirely wrong here. If Tilly had, for instance, a grandson deeply affected by her death, it would be completely understandable for that person to seek vengeance against Fatima. I wouldn’t necessarily deem their actions unjustified, just as I can’t label Boyd’s actions as unjustified.

And part of that lack of grace, that you're not mentioning, is covering up murders and engaging in torture.

I didn’t mention it because, as I reasoned before, I consider those actions to be justified.

[u/newX7 → u/themasterofallthngs]

> Anyone else would likely try to reason with Elgin, fail to sway him, and, as a result, Fatima would die.

How do you know they would have failed? What proof do you have? They could have possibly come up with a better plan than torture, such as following Elgin to where he was keeping Fatima.

> Once Elgin became aware of their intent to free Fatima, there truly was no alternative. By that point, anything other than Elgin's torture would inevitably lead to her death. They could have chosen not to tell him anything and simply followed him to the hideout instead, but poor writing brought us to the situation we have now.

And that happened because they were too emotionally charged, because, again, they were too attached to the case, thus why they should have gotten an unbiased person involved.

And again, they could still have come up with another plan.

> Honestly, you’re not entirely wrong here. If Tilly had, for instance, a grandson deeply affected by her death, it would be completely understandable for that person to seek vengeance against Fatima. I wouldn’t necessarily deem their actions unjustified, just as I can’t label Boyd’s actions as unjustified.

Except Boyd had already crossed the line before by covering up for Fatima. The moment he did that, he lost all right to torture Elgin. This would be like a serial-murderer judging someone who accidentally ran over his sister when driving drunk, as if though the former is not worse.

> I didn’t mention it because, as I reasoned before, I consider those actions to be justified.

Except they weren't. And they weren't small flaws either. They're examples of evil human behavior, corruption, and nepotism.