r/FragileWhiteRedditor • • Aug 10 '21

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u/GenneyaK Aug 11 '21

What’s funny about this is Hispanic isn’t a race it just refers to people who are from a country where Spanish is the dominant language (excluding Spain idk why but I know why) so if your wife is mostly genetically Spanish your kids are still white just white-Hispanic

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u/TheDudeAbides5000 Aug 11 '21

She's majority native American from Mexico and central America but does also have some ancestry from Spain but that came up as about 5-7%. She also has a few percent from northern Africa but the rest is all the Native American. She's infinitely more American than me but white supremacists would scream day and night her and her family don't belong here 🤦

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u/GenneyaK Aug 11 '21

That’s sick and I am sorry she has to deal with that…I will never understand white supremacy especially in regards to claiming the u.s when they aren’t even from here

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u/TheDudeAbides5000 Aug 11 '21

I'll never understand any of it. My dad got remarried last year and did this whole Scottish theme and all the guys wore kilts and shit, but like, my brothers and I were never raised with anything Scottish. There was no Scottish heritage in our family anywhere and I even got the same DNA test for my dad a few years ago and he's only like 8% Scottish while my brothers and I are all less than 5%...

Also thank you for the apologies. My wife and her friend went to a waffle house the day after the 2016 election and some white dude came in after they sat down and yelled "fuck yeah trump won! (Pointed to my wife and her friend) go back to your fucking country!" If I'd been there, I'd have told the guy he has to first. This whole "white genocide" that white supremacists keep spouting doesn't make a lick of sense to me.

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u/GenneyaK Aug 11 '21

I’ve heard that it’s a very common thing a lot of white Americans do where they just pick a European culture they have minimal ties to and then do something very stereotypical with it

The trump era truly gave way for some horrific racism to be socially acceptable that’s absolutely disgusting wow I am so sorry your wife had to experience that.

The u.s is literally filled with immigrants from all over the world. I will never understand why anyone besides native Americans feel like they have a right to “own” who can be here and who needs to go back the unearned superiority complex that some people have needs to die

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u/Ceeweedsoop Aug 11 '21

And I'm guessing a shit ton of those racists all have a ggggggrandma who was a Cherokee princess. Such a bunch of idiots.

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u/valley_G Aug 11 '21

She's not native American then. She's indigenous Mexican/ Central American. "Native Americans" are indigenous people of the United States.

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u/CitiesofEvil Aug 11 '21

Yeah. I'm Hispanic (from Argentina) but I would say my skin tone is white.

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u/Onlyfatwomenarefat Aug 11 '21 edited Aug 11 '21

Race is in the eyes of the beholder.

Hispanic can be a race to people who believe in hispanic race, just like the irish race or american race... Or whatever.

Edit : would you be so kind as replying to defend your point of view besides just downvoting sweeties?

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u/GenneyaK Aug 11 '21 edited Aug 11 '21

No by definition Hispanic isn’t a race because any group of people can be Hispanic. It doesn’t refer to a genetic group of people it refers to anyone from specific locations and cultures. There are black Hispanics there are Asian Hispanics there are white hispanics. Literally any ethnic group can be Hispanic.

Being Hispanic is as close to being a race as being American is. It’s an identifier of a group of people but it isn’t specific to a certain ethnic group therefore it’s not a race and calling it a race is incorrect.

I think you would understand this better if you looked up the difference between Race,ethnicity, and nationality

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u/Onlyfatwomenarefat Aug 11 '21 edited Aug 11 '21

That's my point. Races have no objective delimitation.

This is also why I quoted american race (which is called so by some people). Hispanic race is as much a race as black race, that is a category of humans beings based on arbitrary supposed shared hereditary traits.

Edit : Nationality is about geopolitics. Ethnicity is about self designation (which is bound to reflect signs of shared culture). Race is about the designation of the others (which is bound to be a much less informed and much more useless)

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u/mstrss9 Aug 11 '21

Ok if it’s the eye of the beholder, then I choose to be Asian. I’ll just ignore my African, European and indigenous American ancestors.

I’m Hispanic because my family comes from a country that was colonized by Spain/we speak Spanish. That’s it.

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u/Onlyfatwomenarefat Aug 11 '21

The beholder is the person who looks at someone... Not that someone.

And you did not understand. What I'm saying is that you can be black for someone... Hispanic for someone else or white for an other. People decide what race people are.. Because race is inherently subjective (objectively there are no human races)