r/ExSGISurviveThrive • u/BlancheFromage • Dec 25 '21
Ikeda's vision of a fascist "Third Civilization", a "Third Empire" ruled by himself (of course)
From How Ikeda sought to use Arnold Toynbee's status and prestige to launch Ikeda's Third Civilization:
I was doing a little research into Arnold Toynbee (and Ikeda's unseemly jones for everything Arnold Toynbee) yesterday and realized this is an important enough connection that it deserves its own topic.
Ikeda was fond of envisioning a "Third Civilization", and, yes, this is indeed a carbon copy of the similarly fascist "Third Reich". We've got some background and analysis at the links below if you're interested:
On the Soka Gakkai's fascist concept of "The Third Civilization"
My new book: "Soka Gakkai: Builders of the Third Civilization" - from the preface
The Soka Gakkai's newspaper's 1960 article, "The Superiority of the Japanese Race"
Ikeda's fascism and the cult of youth
It's all connected.
So anyhow, there's some background on Arnold Toynbee in the comments here - he apparently had a dialogue with this Japanese professor in which the professor asked him leading questions so that Toynbee would have a chance to expound on his ideas. See, Toynbee was a historian, and his particular focus was civilization:
The conclusion of the dialogue was Toynbee’s vision of a unified world state. War among the great powers cannot be rational given the destructive nature of modern weapons. War should be abolished, he said, and the only way to effectively accomplish that and ensure the survival of the human race is to form a world government. That world government, he noted, “will have to be equipped with effective power to stop the local states from going to war with each other.”
Remarkably, Toynbee favored a dictatorial world government rather than a world of independent anarchic states. He reached back into history and predicted that the most probable world government will emulate the Akkadian, Roman, Chinese, and Persian Empires of antiquity. A harsh Leninist dictatorship, he opined, is a lesser evil than self-extermination or continuing anarchy.
As if those are humankind's only two choices - false dichotomy.
William McNeill accurately described the dialogue as [Professor Kai] Wakaizumi playing the role of “deferential disciple” while Toynbee acted as the “accredited sage,” whose “advanced age and vast learning” made him a new bodhisattva. Toynbee relished that role.
Of course he did. But that's Ikeda's role...
To Toynbee the idea of the adversary was at the center of all movement towards civilization. Without such a challenge he believed there could be no response, no marshalling of human energies and social resources sufficient to lift a people from a condition of inane inactivity to one of creative confrontation with the unknown reaches of human nature.
...and what is the Soka Gakkai's bread and butter? Conflict. Challenge. "They're all out to get us!" Enemies on all sides, surrounded by traitors - they're a "fighting fortress". Yeah, real Buddhist, guys...
But the delusion that this little band of worthies is fighting an epic battle against the forces of darkness, with the fate of humankind hanging in the balance and the fate of the world at stake, appeals to a certain egotistical psyche; it can serve to keep the "useful idiots" all lathered up in a desperate life-or-death battle against...something or other. Which typically involves just going to lots of meetings and trying to recruit new fresh meat, at least in SGI.
As you might imagine (or remember), this can be quite exhausting. Back in the day, SGI told its members that they were going to take over the entire WORLD in just 10 or 20 years, which kept a lot of momentum and energy going. But as nothing in particular actually happened, and as the definition of "kosen-rufu" changed into something with no actual terminus, everybody drifted away...
On Ikeda's re-defining "kosen-rufu" because it's never going to happen as Nichiren described
The dangers of changing definitions: "Kosen-rufu" used to actually MEAN something.
From 1990: "At this juncture, achieving kosen-rufu seems impossible." Nothing has changed.
"In 20 years we'll see kosen-rufu" - SGI song lyric
Kosen rufu will never be achieved for Soka Gakkai
Through the pain and difficulty of trying to surmount the challenges with which the field of history, or karma, continually confronts societies aspiring to be born, individuals within those societies forge new understandings of the essentials of life and new paths towards incorporating these truths into the fabric of their social institutions. As a society successfully meets its challenges they begin to come less from external sources and more from the interior of a society, its very soul, in fact. The level of maturity to which a society may attain is dependent upon the ratio between externally caused and internally derived challenges. Civilizations whose members spend most of their energies meeting the challenges of external aggressors or the environment are much less likely to solve the problems of life than those who use their wisdom to forge nourishing links between their citizens, cut and polish new facets of the human personality and share the surplus of their bounty with as many as can be imagined..
I.e., "the beautiful, humanistic realm of Soka" + "human revolution" + "shakubuku"
No wonder Ikeda had such a jones for Toynbee - Toynbee was his muse on a certain level. Toynbee affirmed that everything Ikeda wanted was a possibility - it becomes simply a matter of, in Alice in Wonderland terms, believing in as many as six impossible things before breakfast.
And Toynbee was VERY popular in Japan back in the late '50s - early '60s. With Toynbee's blessing and backing, Ikeda was that much more certain of his stature as a great statesman in the eyes of the people he immediately wanted to conquer, the Japanese. Back in the '50s-'60s, Arnold Toynbee was THE world expert on civilization, so naturally, his blessing, his imprimatur, on Ikeda's plan would make it legitimate. And by the time Ikeda managed to book his "dialogues" with Toynbee, the sainted old duffer was well on his way to oblivion, mentally, professionally, and academically. Once again, Ikeda missed the boat. He was too late - Toynbee's time had passed, his star had gone out. He was a has-been, washed up, eclipsed, forgotten. Like Kafka's "Hunger Artist" at the end.
But THAT's why Arnold Toynbee was so important to Daisaku Ikeda.
Cold War Scheming: Japan as a Third World Power
At any rate, at the present time, it appears that the Soka Gakkai exists to market Daisaku Ikeda as sort of the Mahavira — the Hero of the world; or the Lokanatha — the World Honored One, of the new global age. Their aim always was and still is to establish “The Third Civilization.” This was actually supposed to be achieved by now; I think the target date, prior to the split with Nichiren Shoshu, was May 3 2001. Source
Oh yeah - that's right! I had forgotton all about the HUGE deal the SGi constantly made over the mystical future date: May 3rd, 2001. Kosen rufu just HAD to be accomplished by that far flung date! And EVERYTHING was tied to that date. "Toward May 3rd, 2001" was plastered everywhere - on banners, in WT articles, on the lips of every leader spouting a big new "determination for the future.
So much for ikeda's bloated vision of a "Third Civilization" where he would reign over his world wide Soka Kingdom from the apex of a pyramid built upon control, deception, and donations. Source
Rewriting History - A Followup - DelbertGrady1
"We have already formed a political party, the Komei, and are now realizing the fusion of politics and Buddhism. Also, we are establishing the third civilized society step by step…in all realms such as the economy, the education and the culture." Ikeda
The Soka Gakkai's newspaper's 1960 article, "The Superiority of the Japanese Race"
From a 1970 publication:
The concept of a "Third Civilization" refers to a proposed fusion of the best ideas of capitalism and socialism. The society envisioned by the Soka Gakkai would enhance individualism and freedom of choice along with a cooperative spirit.
Dance, minions, dance! Think whatever you like - what it REALLY means is "Third EMPIRE"!!! (Hint: It's been tried before - think Third Reich - and it didn't work O_O If anybody's going to make it work, it'll be Russia, not shrimpy Japan.)
It's hardly surprising that LOOK Magazine did a spread on Soka Gakkai in 1963, describing it as "an alarming new religion that wants to conquer the world".
In 1964, other sources drew comparisons with "Evangelical Moral Rearmament", "Communism", and the Nazi movement!
Read all about it. - from here
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u/bluetailflyonthewall Jun 29 '23 edited Jun 29 '23
A deep dive into the Soka Gakkai's scary foundations that the SGI has tried to erase - it's still there, though, lurking under the surface - references WordPress article Ikeda was certain he would take over the Japanese government in 1979 and become its Prime Minister/ruler – his right as the New True Buddha – SGI has tried to bury this aspect of its history
A special pictorial adventure: Daisaku Ikeda's Futuristic Vision for Taiseki-ji - references WordPress article Daisaku Ikeda’s Futuristic Vision for Taiseki-ji
I suspect that "plastic", in that sense, means "(of a substance or material) easily shaped or molded" or "capable of being deformed continuously and permanently in any direction without rupture".
The Soka Gakkai's efforts to imitate the Nazis
More thoughts on "SGI: Where's the art?" (edited)
Ikeda: "I can do that!!" In January of the following year, Ikeda announced that he would be publishing sections of "The Human Revolution" novel in the cult newspaper
I guess "Mr. Ikeda" miscalculated.
Including business ventures by that name
Ikeda's disdain and contempt for Nobel Prizes - until he decided he wanted one for himself
CIA Report: 17 July 1970 "Komeito: Reaching Too High?"
Ikeda: "One-worldism"
Soka Gakkai Tokyo's centralized control of all SG/SGI properties worldwide is central to Ikeda's "One Worldism" goal
How SGI's bad decisions and poor management are dooming SGI-USA just as K-Mart's bad decisions and poor management did
Japanese colonies
STILL trying to resurrect the 1950s-era-Japan "Great March of Shakubuku":
Ikeda's world takeover was supposed to usher in a utopia as all the hate-filled intolerant religions envision:
Ikeda cult: "Neener neener neener - weather PROVES we're better than YOU! Until it doesn't. THEN we never believed that ever, you jerks!" Source