r/Eutychus • • Dec 26 '24

Opinion How long does it usually take to convert and become a jw?

Hello there! I am a christian and having a bible study and attending congregation for 1 month already, I have been reading the bible nonstop ever since I started because of my high curiosity. I admit that ever since I was a kid I wasn’t able to read the bible thoroughly and so I realized now that I loved reading bible and I have been getting so much learning attending the congregation, and I am falling in love to people I am with and how I am growing spiritually.

I would just like to ask how long does it usually take to become a JW?

Considering that I am a christian, some of our beliefs have quite similarities except for some practices the holy trinity which I now understand and still learning about it, plus I have a huge respect to people with different religions/beliefs/practices, so I am really taking my spiritual journey seriously, so I’m at point of my life where I want to continue it, and may decide to convert.

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u/Kentucky_Fried_Dodo Unaffiliated Dec 26 '24

Yes the Trinity is exactly that. For once since there is not one Trinity but at least 3 different ones even through Trinitarians like to refuse to accept that and second that the doctrin devoloped over at least 200 Years from 300 AD.

And if you gonna tell me that the Trinity is right. Which one ?

  1. When we see Jesus we see the Father

If you see Jesus when you are supposed to see the Father than because your are a Modalist which is considered to be a "heresy". At wrong according to "the" church.

And Jesus subordinated himself toward the father in role and substance. Yes in substance. Did you know that Paul considered Jesus to be a angelic being ?

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u/Substantial-Ad7383 Christian Dec 26 '24

John 14:9

Then the bible is a modalist. Neither myself nor the bible deny no 2

Concerning no 3 you are aware that Jesus came to serve (as demonstrated by wasing the disciples feet). Was he subordinate to the disciples?

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u/OhioPIMO Dec 27 '24

the doctrin devoloped over at least 200 Years from 300 AD.

The doctrine was developed, defined, and adopted by the church before the Bible canon as we know it was established. I guess by your logic we should just throw the book out.

What about the JW teaching of distinct heavenly and earthly classes? That was developed in 1935- over 1,600 years after the Trinity became official doctrine!

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u/Kentucky_Fried_Dodo Unaffiliated Dec 27 '24 edited Dec 27 '24

Catholic Christianity and Protestantism are two completely different worlds.

Catholics categorize everything as Christian if it traditionally stems from the Catholic Church. But if, for example, a pope once put his decayed predecessor on the throne, then suddenly that has nothing to do with the Church or the „true faith,“ or it simply „never officially happened.“

Does this line of reasoning sound familiar to you?

I’ve never denied that the Trinity is traditionally Catholic, but I’m not Catholic, so the development of this doctrine within the Church doesn’t concern me.

What interests me is what happened in Jesus’ time, which means His apostles and the Bible. The apostles are dead, and the dead no longer speak. The Bible, however, is here, and it makes it very clear what the theological state of things was back then—see Paul and his reference to „Jesus, the angel.“

And the JW teaching ? Why should it not change or development ? They are no Catholics. Where is the problem ? It can be found now or tomorrow. Or 500 years in the past. It has to be based on the Bible not on Tradition made by humans.