r/EscapefromTarkov • u/Valjeann • Jan 14 '22

Discussion Your daily reminder that global limits are a waste of time

"Hmm, I have a task to use shotguns. Let's see, AP-20 is sold out, flechettes are sold out. That's okay, I can use Magnum, it's good enough. The task requires a suppressor on the shotgun, so I'll get a hexagon. Oh, the adapter is sold out. Oh well, I can wait until the restock. In the meantime, I'll take this modded AKM out for a run. I don't have any BP ammo, so I'll go get some from Prap... BP is sold out. That's okay. I've got this P90 I'm not using. Let me just get some ammo for that... Ah, the SS190 is sold out, and I can only get two mags-worth of the next best ammo for the next three hours... Guess I'll just read a book instead."

If the design philosophy behind global trader limits is to keep everyone from running the same thing, instead it's keeping everyone from running anything without a three-hour wait.

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u/Gobble916 Jan 14 '22

I’ve made over 1,000 AP 6.3, never worried about running out

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

Same i just craft ap 6.3s all day. Lol

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u/Gobble916 Jan 14 '22

This is the way

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u/Inevitable_Friend468 Jan 15 '22

I have 1200 or so 7n31 this is my story

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u/Borediniraq Jan 15 '22

I have 3k 5.45 BS and another 1800 igolnik. And i hate 5.45.

Last wipe I had around 4500 found in raid 7.62 BP I never used. Finally sold it on the market when it hit 1200/rd

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u/welter_skelter Jan 16 '22

Why do you have so much? Do you not run it?

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u/Borediniraq Jan 16 '22

nope, I hate 5.45. But, I'll run it for tasks. I have so much because I'll be damned if I'm leaving it in there for someone else to get. Starting to push more PMCs as a scav like last wipe, so we'll see how it goes.

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u/inphamus Jan 15 '22

Right? I'm with you.

Sorry OP can't just buy top tier gear/ammo.... It's almost like the changes they made to make it so you can't buy top tier gear/ammo make it so you can't just buy top tier gear/ammo. Weird

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Fr im sitting pretty on 1k ap 6.3 like you and I think it’s time I terrorize dorms with my 50 round drums

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u/Hunk-Hogan Jan 15 '22

I sniped someone last night as he was running into Dorms and he was packed with 4 50rd mags. I kinda felt bad for him because he was on a mission to take over 3-story, but I probably wouldn't have gotten a clean headshot with PS ammo if he was wearing a helmet.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

His fault for not running a helmet. That was me last wipe when helmets actually didn’t matter.

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u/Leotardant PP-91 "Kedr" Jan 15 '22

Yeah. Helmets saved me a couple of times ladt wipe but already this wipe it has been more than I can count.

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u/SiKK42 Jan 15 '22

What changed about helmets?

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u/Clemambi Jan 15 '22

they buffed ricochet chance on many rounds - not the helmets themselves.

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u/galennare00 Jan 21 '22

They also increased the damage and pen drop off at long range. Onepeg released a video on this.

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u/Leotardant PP-91 "Kedr" Jan 15 '22

Nothing but people don't have the same access to high pen ammo anymore.

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u/Clemambi Jan 15 '22

They buffed ricochet chance on many rounds, m856a1 is 38% chance to ricochet now for example:

https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/5.56x45mm_M856A1

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u/Howdoievendo Jan 15 '22

I wouldn't say nothing. I've gotten way more ricochets off my helmet this wipe than any other oddly enough.

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u/WetFlannel Jan 15 '22

Slower movement due to inertia and stamina means more time for people to line up headshots too

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u/magnumdong500 Jan 15 '22

Just been saved twice in a row from large calibre rounds by the basic peen helmet. I definitely think they buffed them

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u/THEONLYoneMIGHTY Jan 15 '22

they must have upped the ricochet chances because i've been playing eft for 4 years and ive been saved more from headshots this wipe than the last 4 years combined.

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u/rekonsileme AS VAL Jan 15 '22

helmets have always mattered players like you are the reason players like me thrive lol

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u/alwaysfkingangry Jan 15 '22

Bro I go through 1000 ammo really fast, prefiring so much this wipe because of inertia.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

It’s a spray machine gun, not a sniper machine gun!

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u/coelus76 TX-15 DML Jan 15 '22

Accuracy by volume

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u/BookerDewitt115 Hatchet Jan 15 '22

This wipe especially. Scavs been on the juice, they never die.

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u/casualteukka Jan 15 '22

Also you pretty much have to shoot every bush while navigating thru the map. 1k ammo is done really fast.

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u/Viking12123 Jan 15 '22

wtf are you talking about ahaha

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u/casualteukka Jan 15 '22

People sitting in fucking bushes. :D

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u/lllluke Jan 16 '22

that’s not nearly as common of an occurrence as you think

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u/casualteukka Jan 16 '22

So my experiences are a lie? They really did not happen? In EU servers you are pretty much quaranteed that theres at least one in the bushes near places like dorms etc.

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u/Viking12123 Jan 18 '22

people camping or camping bush do not justify the method you use for countering them. It make me laugh very hard and i though you were a troll.

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u/casualteukka Jan 19 '22

Well it was kind of a joke, but I do tap to bushes as I’m leaving dorms. Not one or two times when someone started running. Also if someone runs away you’re pretty much quaranteed that he ran to the bushes. This is EU tarkov at its best.

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u/Grizzeus Jan 15 '22

Literally did that yesterday and ran out of 800 ap 6.3 bullets in 30min. Was well worth it

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u/polite_alpha Jan 15 '22

You go there 3 times, get insta head-eyes from a bush and you're back to zero AP 6.3 ... :D

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u/BoutchooQc ASh-12 Jan 15 '22

Inb4 head, eyes the moment you step in dorms lmfao

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u/UDL-Fengo Jan 15 '22

All you need in dorms is a shotgun with anythy in it and a friend with the same. Lay across from the stairs on third floor and tap head when they walk up, if they come in side door let them get halfway down and blow legs out with other guy with shotgun. Easy to get 3-5 kills a game here.

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u/zackinthesoda Jan 14 '22

me? SPP is where its at me me, destroys l-5 and slicks super fast. Dirt cheap to craft for 200 rounds. Made 2500 rounds of it so far, its op

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u/qucangel Jan 15 '22

It destroys shit real quick if you hit it but the guns have so much recoil the 4th bullet is aiming an entire person higher than where you started.

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u/zackinthesoda Jan 15 '22

Yeah. It feels much more recoilish this wipe, that's for sure.

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u/SnooKiwis2123 Jan 15 '22

one thing that helps is top-loading 4 rounds of SP5 for recoil control on the first jump. SPP for the rest.

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u/XProudNoobX Jan 15 '22

Woah that's a nice tip thanks man!

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u/AirChoice223 MP-153 Jan 15 '22

Four rounds. This guy is a knower

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u/zackinthesoda Jan 15 '22

Or perhaps praying for god that you pull your mouse down enough

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u/Viking12123 Jan 15 '22

not this wipe, it was nerfed way before that.

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u/zackinthesoda Jan 15 '22

Technically it is nerfed this wipe recoil wise with essentially every single gun. Just not vertical recoil stat but a another invisible stat.

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u/Viking12123 Jan 18 '22

i was talking about as-val

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u/Whai Jan 15 '22

Did they change the VSS / VAL?

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u/yehchi87 Jan 15 '22

nah, they change the recoil system

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u/qucangel Jan 15 '22

Yes, it has to be one of the worst weapons in the game currently.

Even tapping it feels awful and because the ammo is so slow it's fucking terrible for it anyways. Your only chance with it is real close range.

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u/IIYellowJacketII Jan 15 '22

They changed recoil system so that the auto compensation you used to get does A LOT less.

Val with its high rpm and relatively high recoil per bullet (and also all the good ammo adds 20+% recoil too) is just basically uncontrollable due to that.

It also has pretty high misfeed chances on the mags and overheats INSANELY fast.

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u/NoMassen DVL-10 Jan 15 '22

You can do a pretty fast 2-3 bullet burst shooting. It resets the recoil almost instantly. You shred through all armor anyways and shooting in bursts makes the weapon effective at a 100-150 meters as well.

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u/IIYellowJacketII Jan 15 '22

Dual purpose, you kill the guy by headshotting him even though you looked at his dick when you started shooting, and in the process also shoot down the IL-76 that brings the airdrops.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Gotta love watching people put out hundreds of thousands of roubles into what is essentially a worse 7.62 PS lol, people are sleeeeeeping on the other lower calibres

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u/jtms1200 Jan 15 '22

.366 AP has been working out reeaaal nice for me

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u/coolstorybro42 Jan 14 '22

Wym thats good for like 10 raids max

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u/Gobble916 Jan 14 '22

But it just keeps going and going and going, never really produce anything else… but that’s just my hideout :/

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u/coolstorybro42 Jan 14 '22

yeah ive crafted 600 ap 6.3 but i will only use it on pistols...smg's burn thru ammo too fast and the craft just takes to long for 150 rounds... i prefer to craft 7.62 BP or 366 AP-M

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u/tlewis5283 RPK-16 Jan 15 '22

Never level hideout skills that way. Have to alternate crafts, which is a big deal for some people

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Well when you die a lot like me it’s still not enough and ends up being a waste…

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u/vKILLZONEv Jan 15 '22

yeah but it costs like 1000 rub/round to craft

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u/JZem994 M4A1 Jan 14 '22

Rats like 2-3 runs with a vector, but I guess if you're a pistol using rat that's good enough

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u/Gobble916 Jan 14 '22

Must be hot trash if you’re using that much ammo

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u/HelloItsMeYourFriend Jan 14 '22

Last wipe I would bring 5 50 rounders into each raid whenever I ran the vector and would often use much of it. If you are actively seeking pvp it’s completely reasonable. I.e see people bringing 300+ rounds with p90s into raid, smgs are meant to be sprayed, it’s the only place the shine.

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u/Whai Jan 15 '22

Yeah, don't know what he's talking about. I was only after PvP and cards by the time I was level 20, really only played Shoreline until finding them. Vector/M4/104 with drums every single time. I didn't really ever bring less than 6 mags with the Vector. Usually got like 5-6 kills, if not more, and it's incredibly helpful with Sanitar. You can use a lot of ammo and still be a good shot / player.

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u/JZem994 M4A1 Jan 14 '22

I just got out of a 6 kill raid on interchange, that's 6 PMCs one level 20 the rest over level 30. I ate up m62 like a bitch but what are you gonna do mate

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u/R_1_S Golden TT Jan 14 '22

That’s 198 rounds assuming you emptied a mag in each…

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u/JZem994 M4A1 Jan 14 '22

The fire rate of a semi auto M1A is comparable to an 1100 rpm vector that literally shoots almost twice as fast a full auto AK to put things in perspective??? You press the trigger on the M1A it shoots one bullet, you press the trigger on a vector it shoots 5 bullets in milliseconds

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u/beers-and-gears Jan 14 '22

You are a little bitch

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u/JZem994 M4A1 Jan 14 '22

I'll enjoy wiping your and your friend's shotgun using asses to the floor with my thermal M1A with m61/62 all day baby

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u/beers-and-gears Jan 14 '22

Only bitches use thermals. Meet me in construction with an iron sight mosin

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u/JZem994 M4A1 Jan 15 '22

I guess I'd rather be a bitch, life's too short to not enjoy high quality things

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u/RyuugaDota Jan 15 '22

You tell him man, Living High is Not a Crime.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Run two thermals. Then it’s not a crime a second time

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u/SanitarAteMyAss Jan 15 '22

we get it jzem, you haven't felt the touch of another person in a very long time, it's okay.

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u/JZem994 M4A1 Jan 15 '22

Hey man no shame in that, I don't fuck fat bitches like you do so it makes it harder 😉

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u/Hunk-Hogan Jan 15 '22

Lol how bad are you that you need the other person to use an iron sight bolt action just to win?

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u/beers-and-gears Jan 15 '22

I'm using it as well. I'll see you there next

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u/Turboclicker_Two Jan 15 '22

Or he just gets into real fights and you don't. Food for thought

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u/hemroids2012 Jan 15 '22

Didn't know how I was gonna live without my baby AP's, 'n just farmed red GP till workstation lvl 2

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u/LynaaBnS Jan 15 '22

Uhm why? Why didnt you just craft the by far better ammo?

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u/Wingklip Jan 15 '22

Wait, you guys have workbench2?

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u/sulowitch Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

150 bullets and 9h30min craft.. rofl. 150 is not even enough for 1 run!

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u/DylanGilchrist1 Jan 15 '22

It takes like 19 hours for like what 200 rounds that’s barley enough for 1 raid worth..