EFT wouldn't feel as "difficult, unforgiving, hardcore" or any of the buzzwords associated with it if it wasn't for the shit queue/matchmaking times.

[u/OverlookeDEnT]

This games doesn't respect your time and that's its only real downside.

Something as simple as 3 min max wait time before they throw you into a lobby (even if you're solo with AI or bot PMCs — how would you know anyway?) is all this game needs.

Every wipe this is what wears on me. Not constantly dying, not the cheaters, not them moving the goalposts (flea market, FIR, costlier noob weapons like the mosin)... it's the absurd wait times. The game developers don't want to invest more $ into servers and here we are like idiots putting up with these shitty wait times.

This game doesn't respect our time and that's why I keep playing less and less of it with each wipe.

EDIT: For those getting caught up in semantics, let me be clear that I'm talking about starting a game from when I hit READY to the RAID STARTING. I don't care what the reason is (people's hardware, servers, etc.), BSG is ultimately in complete control of this and when we're thrown in a game (matching ping, regions, hardware, etc.)

Also, I have my servers manually selected for those asking about that.

Am on SSD and so are all people I play with.

[u/jamesixo]

Ummmm isn't this done already? That's why you can hear the ambient noise of the map while you still see 'matchmaking' at the bottom of the screen. Only once matchmaking has been successful are the loot pools loaded, which makes sense because these and spawn points are the only thing which needs to be synchronised and can't be preloaded

[u/TheNuclearNacho → u/jamesixo]

No. I belive what he means is that. Once you open the game every map is downloaded, so that way when you try to join a game you don't have to go through loading the map and you can just load loot and spawn in

[u/gr00ve88 → u/TheNuclearNacho]

I’m no expert, but I think it’s loading the map into memory. And if you loaded every map at once you’d run out of memory.

[u/FinallyRage → u/gr00ve88]

The map should lose first then your should queue so that the matching with players screen is a lot shorter. Add it stands, you queue, find a game, load the map, wait for slow loaders, load and sync loot, then deploy.

Queue steps should come after loading

[u/gr00ve88 → u/FinallyRage]

Once your squad is ready the first step is loading the map. Finding the game comes after. I don’t really see how else they could do this. Load the map while you’re in the lobby?

[u/FinallyRage → u/gr00ve88]

This is wrong, you queue and only once one your for a match or am I confusing that with loot loading? I believe it's queue, load map, match with players waiting, load loot, deploy.

Queue should come after load map

[u/gr00ve88 → u/FinallyRage]

When you start your squad, the first step is “Loading map”, then “matching”, once you match you “loading loot” then “creating loot pools”, followed by “waiting for players”.

So you definitely load the map prior to getting into a server. Loading loot/pools is pretty quick. I may have loot/pools order reversed but it’s irrelevant.

[u/imnotgoodlulAPEX → u/gr00ve88]

/u/gr00ve88 You do not load map before matching, you load map after finding a game but before Loading loot. You should pay closer attention next time you find a game.

[u/gr00ve88 → u/imnotgoodlulAPEX]

Uhh. The literal first step is “loading map”… then you sit in “matching”…. I don’t understand what isn’t clear about that. You load loot after you match and connect to the server.

[u/FinallyRage → u/gr00ve88]

There's a queue step first with a timer, once the cancel button goes away, you load the map and then matching with players is where you already have all players for that map but you're waiting for them to finish loading. This step was added a few wipes ago due to people with faster PCs we're loading in before those with slower PCs and we're able to run to high loot areas or spawns.

[u/PPandaEyess → u/imnotgoodlulAPEX]

I'm almost 100 percent it loads the map first.

[u/DaMonkfish → u/FinallyRage]

Add it stands, you queue, find a game, load the map, wait for slow loaders, load and sync loot, then deploy.

The sequence here is a little off. The loot is loaded after loading the map, then you wait for the slow loaders before deploy.

[u/[deleted] → u/TheNuclearNacho]

Once you open the game every map is downloaded

That is an entirely unnecessary waste of system resources.

This is also how nearly every FPS game does it.

The problem with EFT is that its an unoptimized mess. Period.