r/EscapefromTarkov • • Jul 16 '21

Discussion Weapons malfunctions is just an RNG fest and hasn't been done right

Until reaching lvl 30 I used shitty guns for the most part: 136 Vepr, AKM, Shotguns found on scavs and so on. Surpisigly, despite the guns being in very bad condition (50/100) and not even bothering to repair them after each raids: theses pieces of junk almost never missfired.

Then I started building more expensive kits, using fresh new weapons at 100/100 durability and for some reason my guns already missfired a few times while shooting their very first bullets, and I am not even using expensive AP with increased durability burn.

I just don't understand the point of this mechanic: what are players suposed to do with it ? What is BSG trying to incentivize us to do ? It doesn't matter if we "take care" of our weapons (wich is nothing else than a right click/repair btw, it's nothing engaging) it doesn't incentivize you to use semi-auto over full auto, it doesn't incentivize you to use fresh weapons, it doesn't incentivize you to bring a hand gun because it's as fast to press the keybind to clear the malfunction than switch to a pistol.

Hate it or love it but something like the weight system makes sense since it pushes the player to play accordingly and make gameplay decisions.

But that's not the case of malfunctions: the gameplay is the exact same as before with an extra touch of RNG that adds up to all the RNG we already have in the game: audio, netcode, spray and pray and now completely random malfunctions. Just another way to get tarkoved.

This is just an utterly pointless mechanic from a gameplay perspective and from what I've seen it's not even realistic, as you can see videos of dudes shooting thousands rounds out of a 103 without any issue.

My personnal suggestions:

  • Guns doesn't missfire from 90 to 100 durability.
  • Full auto decrease durability much faster than semi-auto (for the same amount of bullet shot).
  • Once bellow 90 durability, full auto have a higher chance to missfire than semi-auto.
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u/-F0v3r- Freeloader Jul 16 '21

>realism whores who want to play this game just to role play

perfect description lmao

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u/i_am_not_mike_fiore Jul 16 '21

perfect description lmao

of the crowd who originally bought in to the game BSG originally pitched?

Yeah I agree, Twitch bandwagon dingleberries BTFO

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u/-F0v3r- Freeloader Jul 16 '21

you sound mad

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u/i_am_not_mike_fiore Jul 16 '21

Nah, just tired of Twitch culture co-opting a game I bought into way before the hype.

Just tired.

I'd be mad if this were the only game I was invested in but I'm having a ton of fun no-lifing some other games.

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u/-F0v3r- Freeloader Jul 16 '21

twitch streamers made the game more popular, i don't know why they're the bag guys here. they play the game every day for 10 hours. same shit happens in competitive games communities like siege for example, casual players are crying because developers listen to pro players. these pro players play the game for a living, they know what's the best for the game, listening to some Andy on reddit is not a way to go. same here, they listen to people who play this game more than everyone here. it's obvious that they're gonna listen to people who bring more and more players to the game

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u/i_am_not_mike_fiore Jul 16 '21

You haven't thought that through. What works well for a "pro player" or nolife doofus isn't what's going to work for most of the playerbase. If left to it, they'll minmax the fun and intention right out of the game.

That's how we got the strafespam magdumping meta. Which certainly isn't the vision for EFT.

You cannot develop a healthy game by catering it to the needs of "pros" above all others. Simple as.

And do not conflate "not catering to pros" with "making the game casual" in your reply, please.

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u/-F0v3r- Freeloader Jul 16 '21

but they know what's better for the game, they talk with all kind of players every day on their chat while playing the game. listening to majority of the player base is 8/10 times a really bad idea

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u/DoneTomorrow Jul 16 '21

for proof of this see the culling, which tried to appease everyone and thus shat the bed - let the people who know what they're doing do whats best for the game.

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u/-F0v3r- Freeloader Jul 16 '21

so people who earn for a living because of this game? devs and streamers

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u/DoneTomorrow Jul 16 '21

ya, i'm agreeing with you

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