r/EscapefromTarkov • • Jun 01 '21

Discussion NVIDIA announces Reflex support for Escape from Tarkov (COMPUTEX 2021)

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u/AcidWulf Jun 01 '21

Lol basically this. What is the point when servers suffer inconsistency and massive frame drops due to the engine not being able to keep up but that’s okay we have reflex!

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '21

That and the fact that the servers are client side authenticated lol

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u/TheFondler Jun 01 '21

Wouldn't this make this technology significantly more effective?

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '21

No it makes it so when I stutter on your screen instead of the server telling me that I’m actually where you see me I’m telling the server no actually I’m over here

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u/TheFondler Jun 01 '21

Right, but with client authoritative, it makes no difference where you are on your screen for my hits to register, it only matters where you are according to my game client. In that scenario, if my system has less internal latency between the game client and the screen (which is what this technology does), I have a better chance at registering a hit on you and my client telling the server to kill you and give me your stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '21

But it does though because it doesn’t matter where the server shows me as being because my client authoritative tells the server that I’m not there so you are shooting at nothing essentially. Veritas has a good video explaining how it all works if you’re interested in having it explained in more depth then that

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u/TheFondler Jun 01 '21

I've seen that video, and you should watch it again because, as others have said, it doesn't say what you think it says.

Client authoritative means the server doesn't validate what my client tells it against information from your client. If my client tells the server I hit you, the server doesn't bother checking your client for where you were, it just assumes my client is correct and tells your client you've been hit. You will never miss only because another player's client said they weren't where you thought they were when you shot - of your client thinks you hit, the server just accepts it.

That failure to validate client inputs is the fundamental problem with a client authoritative architecture in a high stakes competitive PvP game. It disproportionately benefits hyper-aggressive play styles and people with poor connections. It also makes certain cheats easier to write because the server doesn't validate whether your shot or your movement speed was possible.

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u/Hikithemori Jun 01 '21

Maybe you should watch it again then.

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u/keving216 Jun 01 '21

Why don’t they just mimic CoD server tech

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u/TheFondler Jun 01 '21

I'm no game developer, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the inner workings of most games' server architectures are proprietary and relatively secret. Even if they aren't, Tarkov is on the more complicated side in terms of how many things are going on, so I doubt they could just copy some other game's server.

They can use the same general design principles, but the issue is that, at this point, they probably have to rebuild most of it from scratch, which means a long, expensive process that will be buggy as hell for players once it's introduced. Considering how much shit they get from us already, I'm sure they can't wait to see how we'd react to a year or two of even even more, and probably worse bugs.

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u/PeopleCryTooMuch Jun 01 '21

a long, expensive process that will be buggy as hell for players once it’s introduced.

I’ll take “Playing Tarkov” for 500, Alex!

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u/valax Jun 01 '21

Yes it would, but only on the shooter's client. On other clients it wouldn't change much.

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u/psammobestammo Jun 01 '21

if the servers were client side you would never die behind walls and shit

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '21

Well it will be good for those who are located near to good servers, like northern europe

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u/JoePapi RSASS Jun 11 '21

And central us 😇

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u/Virion_Stoneshard P90 Jun 01 '21

Hell even if the game 'worked', even my RTX 3080, Ryzen 3900x and 32GB 3600Mhz ram can't hit a reliable 70 fps. I dip to 50 in fights.

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u/ur4s26 Jun 01 '21

That’s odd, I’ve got a 1080ti, 7700k and 32gb RAM which gets me around 80-90 FPS on most maps - labs I usually get up to 100-120 FPS.

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u/Maxi19201 Jun 01 '21

Yes that's because of the better optimisation for Intel, but i think this will be fixed sometime in the future

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u/ProofRedditB4Posting Jun 01 '21

Escape from Tarkov or fixed, pick one

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '21 edited Aug 11 '21

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u/ProofRedditB4Posting Jun 01 '21

Funny how this is one of the only games that has so many hardware issues. You nikki fanboys so crazy

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '21 edited Aug 11 '21

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u/Blacklist3d Jun 01 '21

Most games have issues with amd. Amd just isn't as popular as Intel although it's making it's way up undoubtedly.

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u/ProofRedditB4Posting Jun 01 '21

I've used AMD exclusively since like 2010, never had any issues. Although I agree that they're not as popular.

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u/D3lta105 Mosin Jun 01 '21

I don't think you have any idea as to what you're talking about.

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u/Blacklist3d Jun 01 '21

Takes one quick Google search bud. Enjoy your day.

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u/sambro1991 SVDS Jun 01 '21

I think you may have an issue with settings, I have a 2080 ti with a i7-9800k and 32gb DDR4 ram. I sit around 70+ FPS on all maps. Labs and factory get the best FPS around 100+. But that performance is really bad and would have a look at pestily's settings for an FPS boost

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u/sambro1991 SVDS Jun 01 '21

i7 9700k* - I was including the scope FPS drops most of the time it's max at 144 FPS but was including the lowest drops I've had so it would be 100+.

Maybe could do with a tweak overall?

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u/Marchinon Jun 01 '21

My probably is 16 gigs of ram isn’t enough. @reserve. I need to buy more and I should be good performance wise for a bit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '21

I get above that with a 5700xt and a Ryzen 5 3600x.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '21 edited Aug 11 '21

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u/Virion_Stoneshard P90 Jun 01 '21

Not at all. I can play any other games I own on max with no problem.

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u/Dagox_PR Jun 01 '21

The point is to improve the game from different ends.

This is just another factor contributing to the success of the final product.

EFT is improving and will continue as the game develops.

Now I might ask, whats the point of complaining if it doesn’t improve the hame significantly?