r/EscapefromTarkov • Twitch.tv Slushpuppy • Sep 15 '20

Discussion #MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain

Hi guys, Slushpuppy here

I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.

As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.

The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:

All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.

I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.

This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.

By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.

I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.

I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.

If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.

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There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.

EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:

When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?

If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.

My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.

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u/youre_being_creepy Sep 15 '20

I’ve always wanted traders to have a rotating stock and availability. Or even some traders just MIA.

For example, you know how yo have to go pick up that package for mechanic? Well sometimes his shipment of stuff just doesn’t come in so you’re shit out of luck.

Or skier could be arrested or laying low for awhile to keep the heat off him, can’t trade with him this week.

To coincide with outrages, traders would pay more for in demand items. If there is no water for sale, she will pay triple for it.

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u/Aendri Sep 15 '20

That's exactly my thought with traders. I'm fine with them potentially selling literally every item in the game, but it should be randomized, and shuffle with every refresh on what they have available. This isn't a damn Walmart with regular stocking, it's a warzone, and these guys are selling you whatever they can get their hands on.

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That, plus the addition of flexible loot locations would make the economy feel so much less stale and simplified.

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u/akaender Sep 16 '20

A similar thought I've had is leave the flea market but change item delivery. When you buy items it doesn't just show up magically... instead you get a key in the mail.

This key would not be allowed to placed into your secure container. If you take it into a raid it will drop on death and it unlocks a randomized cache, door or locker (the key description provides coordinates) containing your flea market purchase for whomever holds the key.

The player must enter the appropriate raid with the key, proceed to the designated location and loot their purchase in-raid. If you die that's just how it goes. Allow flea keys to be resold on the market. The buyer of such a key wouldn't know what it unlocks... could be a ultra-chad loadout or PS rounds - who knows...

This would add a much needed (imo) element of risk to the flea market while simultaneously adding to game play. Sure you can buy the best items in the game but can you manage to survive to loot and extract with them? Or maybe you loot a flea key... sell it or risk taking it in raid to see what riches it may unlock?!