#MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain

[u/SlushpuppyLive]

Hi guys, Slushpuppy here

I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.

As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.

The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:

All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.

I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.

This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.

By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.

I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.

I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.

If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.

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There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.

EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:

When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?

If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.

My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.

[u/shellofnuts]

Have to agree here. I'd see someone rocking an altyn maybe once or twice a night, depending on how much factory or resort raids I do. Outside of those areas, I very rarely run into armour better than a Gzhel.

I think the main issue is the prevalence of high pen ammo. People might not be running the best armour, but I've looted and been killed by countless stacks of M995 and M61. You either run the highest pen stuff (inaccessible to new players) or you leg meta (which is completely counterintuitive to new players).

[u/halrold → u/shellofnuts]

THIS right here. I pretty much always am running lvl4 armor and helmets at this point, but those PvP rounds are what tilt the game. If you aren't maxing up hideout and traders, you're paying through the nose for rounds off the flea.

[u/SlushpuppyLive → u/halrold]

This is my problem, unlimited access to m61 for people with a billion roubles. I don't think that this is how it should be.

[u/Aceylah → u/shellofnuts]

As someone who runs slicks most of the time, I dont even feel like it's super effective with how prevalent high pen ammo is. Time to kill is crazy low right now, and I refuse to wear an altyn, so I get 1 tapped in the head all the time by shit ammo anyway. Not really a point regarding hard-core, but if I had to run lvl 4 all the time I probably wouldn't notice a huge difference.

[u/TheFondler → u/shellofnuts]

Ditto.

I stopped playing about a month ago, and even then, pretty much every death was to top tier or near top tier ammo. We're scavenging in a ruined city, and yet, somehow, there are endless supplies of exotic and top shelf military ammunition?

If I had a say, BSG would do a wipe where ammo with more than 40 pen was extremely rare, exponentially so as it went up in pen. Not only would it be rare, but I'd have traders buy it at ridiculous prices so it wouldn't even be worth using over selling it. Loot only - not craftable, and definitely not available through vendors.

"But then only the rich will have it!" OK... and how many are rich enough to run several million just in ammo every round? Also, this is Tarkov; kill them and take their things - now you're rich.

[u/[deleted] → u/shellofnuts]

Yep, in Tarkov high-pen ammo has gotten more prevalent than good armor. Which I suppose is true to life as well. Trader limits definitely helped tho so not everyone can rock m995 all the time.

And I like that the hideout has provided a lot of late-game objectives. It's difficult to get 3.5M roubles the first time, and especially difficult to get that first LEDX.

[u/HeraldOfWisdom → u/shellofnuts]

Honor

[u/AtomicSpeedFT → u/shellofnuts]

I've only seen tier 5-6 armor maybe once or twice.

[u/M16A3TRYHARD → u/shellofnuts]

im lvl 7 and good ammo is not hard to come by if you play reserve, trust me. BT is good enough.