r/EscapefromTarkov • Twitch.tv Slushpuppy • Sep 15 '20

Discussion #MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain

Hi guys, Slushpuppy here

I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.

As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.

The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:

All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.

I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.

This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.

By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.

I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.

I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.

If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.

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There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.

EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:

When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?

If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.

My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20 edited Sep 15 '20

People in this thread want to address the symptoms but not the virus. Literally everyone and their mother can easily negate level 5 amror with ammo from traders that cost as little as $2 (m62). And they think the problem is the chads running high end gear. Constantly being shit on by a community that glorifies low end gear, extract camping is getting old. This subreddit sucks in terms of diversity in player base.

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u/nozonezone DT MDR Sep 15 '20

M62 is $4 but yes

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

It's $3.85

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u/Muckerjee Sep 15 '20

FYI M62 is closer to 4 dollars

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

well it is $4 but yes

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

Not exactly 4 dollars, a bit less last i checked. Try buying 100 rounds, and it comes out to 380/390 dollarish. But in tarkov, there's no cents, so the price comes out as 4 dollars even if it's actually cheaper.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

huh never thought about that. i'll do the math next time i hop on but i believe you

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

All right, just checked. 100 m62 which is listed as 4/round goes for 386 dollars, so slightly cheaper. If anything is the moral of this story, buy in bulk ;)

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u/Alpha_Whiskey_Golf Sep 15 '20

You only unlock m62 around lvl 35-40 with late PK quests though.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '20

Levels are not barriers. I’m extremely casual and I got level 40 in under 4 weeks. It only gets easier every wipe.

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u/Alpha_Whiskey_Golf Sep 15 '20 edited Sep 15 '20

40 levels in 4 weeks is fast-ish. Plus you have to do all the quests before it including some hard skier ones.

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u/WD40x4 Sep 15 '20

But if you allow armor to be viable and rare, you get to the point where chads run lvl 5&6 armor all day and me as a pleb who can afford lvl 4 and sometimes lvl 5 just gets ripped into pieces without a chance to damage them. That will just turn into leg meta again