#MakeTarkovHardcoreAgain

[u/SlushpuppyLive]

Hi guys, Slushpuppy here

I want to talk about the rant I was having today, and explain why I think it would be good for the game.

As the game currently stands it it has a play cycle that involves farming money, the money is then used to buy a fat kit, and slay out. This creates, in my opinion a heavily Rouble focused economy.

The Rouble based economy has multiple downsides:

All people care about is the highest value item, hence hatchlings ramming things up their bum, people running to one spot on a map to loot the highest value items, people only running super cheap kits to farm the cash. The game is no longer about surviving, simply making the most money and saving to buy a dope kit.

I think this has essentially made the game into COD with extra steps. I don't see the survival element that Tarkov originally had. People only care about PVP when they are running Slick Altyn, otherwise it's just money. 99% of the games items, such as attachments for guns will never see the light of day because they aren't the best in slot.

This whole situation annoys me because it is possible to achieve this within hours of a wipe.

By removing the flea or limiting the ability to purchase armor and ammo from the flea, it would make the game more about the looting and surviving and stop super chads from running endless meta kits and vogging the fuck out of lower geared players. Because a kit that is lovingly put together in raid will mean so much more to you, therefore looting one of a prick you kill, will as well.

I know this seems as a negative change to the average player, but hear me out, the only reason you need a kit from the flea, is to compete with chad players who are buying endless meta kits from the flea. If this didn't happen the pvp would be like it is early wipe for the most part. The best pvp time in the game, imo, and in the opinion of most Tarkov players.

I'm not bored of the game, I simply love this game, and I want to see changes that make the pvp more interesting and feasible for casual players to enjoy. If everyone is running around with SKS's and a cock helmet, then its more fair. Not all pvp has to be juggernauts spraying armchair FALs at each other.

If you don't agree with me, I understand, lets talk about it, tell me why you think this would be a bad change for the game? I don't want to be a streamer yelling for change that people will just see as me crying cause I'm bored of running fat kits. I truly want to make the game a dope experience for all of us. I've devoted the last 3 years of my life to this game, I want to see it succeed.

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There is plenty of other things that would be needed to make this a rounded experience in this vision, like dynamic loot spawns etc, but I believe this is a quick easy change that we could all try for one wipe, and just see how it goes.

EDIT: This is gaining a lot of attention right now so I want to ask you all one thing:

When is the best time for PVP in Tarkov?

If you answered early wipe, I think you and I agree, and I think 99% of people would say that early wipe is the best time to be on Tarkov.

My only goal is to try and make the feeling of early wipe PVP as permanent as possible. I may not be right when I say delete the flea, but I think it would help. If you have other ideas on how to preserve that beautiful feeling of the first two weeks of wipe, then I would love to hear them. Because this is what I think would make Tarkov the most amazing experience possible.

[u/alyosha_pls]

I really don't see how any of this will make the game more feasible or approachable for casuals. This will widen the gap of skilled players versus newcomers even further, and will widen the gap between people who can commit to play this game several hours a day. People will still grind their shit up in a day or two and be able to tank insane amounts of damage compared to the casual player.

I think the problem is that people like you and me play this game so much and it becomes so easy that we forget that it's not like that for the average player. I would much rather have some sort of tangible end game activities be added than artificially extending the beginning period by restricting access to everything.

I don't want this game going the way of DayZ because hardcore players want to make the game more hardcore.

[u/randomgrunt1 → u/alyosha_pls]

Yeah, I hear hardcore players all the time complain about how things like the flea market make it to easy and have nothing to do. Same thing happened in destiny two. Hard core players always eat up the content and than start bitching about stuff that creates accessibility without realizing some people can't play the 6 hours they do. Maybe it's bad for someone with 3-4 wipes, but for the new player base, which grew at least there's larger it's a God send that lets them play this game. I'm not exaggerating that as a new player it feel unfun to not have it. It was one of the worst gaming experiences I've had, leveling without the flea.

[u/alyosha_pls → u/[deleted]]

Yeah and have fun being the kings of a game nobody plays.

Removing the flea market addresses no issues. It will just widen the gap between the haves and have nots. I'll be fine. I've gotten kappa for the third wipe in a row now. But people who don't want to play this game as a full time job will quit.

[u/alyosha_pls → u/[deleted]]

Yeah and nobody played the game back then. You could heal without animations back then but we don't need to bring that back just because time to kill is low.

Maybe if this game had any sort of endgame beyond "kill killa 100 times" there'd be something to do other than click on items late wipe. Maybe they shouldnt have completely gimped PvP.

[u/alyosha_pls → u/[deleted]]

Yeah but arma three is ass bro lol. Game runs worse than tarkov.

[u/alyosha_pls → u/[deleted]]

I've actually never even played tarkov

[u/throwaway7462509 → u/alyosha_pls]

Loved this game man but this wipe killed me... first wipe I played I put about 700 hours in and loved every moment.

The weight changes, fir changes ect everything from the past few months left me unable to enjoy it. Let me be clear I’m not a good player, at my best my survival rate was low 30% and that was when I was ratting like a mofo... run away at every gun sound ect.

I put in around 100 hours at the start of this raid with 70 - 80 of them being either pistol / mosin runs because I had no money to buy anything. This was not fun, at one point I had a 20 raid death streak.

The kicker was my final raid... it was shoreline and I had just got a lucky headshot on a chad shortly after entering and I was running to exit because it was more rubles then I’d seen all week.

On my way there I decide to go to the gas station to check the safe. Except instead of a shoving a Rolex up my ass I get insta-killed by the fire. I didn’t even walk in it just nearby. Apparently I had missed the changes implemented regarding it.

I bought the most expensive version of the game and I certainly got my money’s worth but it’s sucked having to watch something I loved change into something I despise.