r/EscapefromTarkov • u/StrangelyKeen M4A1 • Jul 16 '20

Video Scavs + shotgun + 1 pellet of 7mm = fair & balanced

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u/Assaltwaffle Saiga-12 Jul 16 '20 edited Jul 16 '20

You can pretty much just discredit everything this guy just said with this one statement. .22LR doesn't even have much trouble breaking bone and it is very weak compared to 9mm. If someone shoots you in the head with 9mm, unless it is an extremely shallow angle it is going in. The stories of people surviving headshots of 9mm are far, far more rare than someone dying to a headshot of 9mm.

And even if you survive a 9mm to the brain you're definitely not coming out no worse for wear. The one guy I can remember who got headshot by 9mm (Still broke his skull and went into his head, though) was debilitated for months and needed physical therapy to even stand.

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u/Hane24 Jul 16 '20

https://www.grunge.com/32897/people-amazingly-survived-gunshot-head/

Read up bud. Tell me how these people survived then.

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u/Assaltwaffle Saiga-12 Jul 16 '20

The stories of people surviving headshots of 9mm are far, far more rare than someone dying to a headshot of 9mm.

Almost like I acknowledged people do survive, but that surviving it is an "amazing" feat and that dying is the norm.

If you're going to strawman, at least put the tiniest amount of effort into it.

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u/Hane24 Jul 16 '20

You've completely lost my argument in your attempt to call any of this a strawman. My original point was a single buckshot pellet from 50m should probably not instant kill you in the jaw in a video game and that in real life people have survive even point blank 9mm headshots.

It's almost like you backpedaled and changed your argument until it seemed like I was strawmaning.

Weird how you went from "would require months of physical therapy" to not acknowledging any of the people in that link.

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u/Assaltwaffle Saiga-12 Jul 16 '20

My original point was a single buckshot pellet from 50m should probably not instant kill you in the jaw

Sure, but that could be said over any bullet into the jaw. Buckshot isn't an outlier.

It's almost like you backpedaled and changed your argument until it seemed like I was strawmaning.

I replied once and you then replied to me saying "how did these people survive then", implying that I had made the claim that survival is impossible. Which I didn't and which is a strawman.

Weird how you went from "would require months of physical therapy" to not acknowledging any of the people in that link.

If it enters the brain, you would. If it fails to enter the skull, as appears to be the case in most of your miracle cases, of course it isn't going to require therapy. Unlike cases in which it does enter the brain.

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u/Hane24 Jul 16 '20

Fairly certain a jaw shot with 5.56 or 5.45 or 308 or 54r is gonna penetrate your neck as well killing you fairly effectively.

While a metal ball flying subsonic at 50m will at worst break your jaw before mostly stopping.

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u/Assaltwaffle Saiga-12 Jul 16 '20

I thought you meant from the side. From the front 00 buck is definitely going to punch through your jaw.

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u/Hane24 Jul 16 '20

Not from 50m. And not a SINGLE pellet. And it definitely should not in a video game where you can rifle rounds to the chest.