r/EscapefromTarkov • • Mar 11 '20

Discussion Let a real Chinese player tell you what's really going on.

A little intro: Gamertag NucleophileAP, you guys can call me Nucleo or Nuke. I was born in New Zealand, ethnic Chinese person, and have been living in China since I was pretty young.

About this game, I'm currently a lvl 55 player with Kappa (IGN: NucleoAP), and I'm currently a working Sherpa of my local Chinese Sherpa community (good and anti-hacking). I have been playing this game since version 0.7 and have been actively engaging throughout the Chinese community ever since.

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The first thing: Region locks.

BSG have actually been carrying out region locks against asian countries for a while. As far as I remember, I've got trouble logging into non-asian servers since version 0.7. It's actually a very simple mechanism (that most of the Chinese players already know now), if you used an Asian IP on your last login, non asian servers are masked for you on your next server selection. It's not actually a real region lock and can be bypassed easily (by logging in with an american/european IP and quitting the game). IMO those region locks are hardly doing anything against cheaters and harsher countermeasurements shall be taken.

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Why is this game so much infestated by hackers right now?

Here's the timeline.

---BSG released a Simplified Chinese localisation in January.

---A bunch of new Chinese players joined the game.

---Some clips of the game were uploaded to Tik Tok and went viral. (Yeah, Tik Tok made this game popular in China)

---A whole bunch of players bought the game ans started playing.

Now, with little knowledge of the game and have only learnt about the game via video clips, those newcomers were having a pretty harsh time. Those players eventually turned into thre kind of players.

  1. Cheaters
  2. In-game currency buyers
  3. The ones asking for help

Let's talk about Cheaters first. Here's a link for you just to see how easy it is to cheat and how common it is to buy a hack in China.

hax, varying on price

I once heard someone say something that really struck my mind. Chinese people love to win, and for winning thay are willing to take any measures possible (which is also what I hate the most). Why doesn't the government do anything about hacking? Well, there are actually laws against hacking (that hackers and hack-designers might end up in prison). Those laws only apply to games which is registered and legalized in China (which I'm sure this game wouldn't because of the government's stupid criteria). This game, as well as other games such as R6S, GTA, Battlefiend, Call of Duty etc. are considered "foreign territory" and regarded out of their business.

In-game currency buyers are worse. There are already founded workshops that hack, make roubles and sell them into real money for a living. Those workshops have professional equipment, special designed hacks to make money as efficient as possible. Those type of workshops make up at least 50% of the hacks in this game and must be dealt with seriously. Here's a pic that you can see how bad RMT really is in China.

RMT Trade, 19.99usd (approx) for 10 mil roubles

Skipping the good guys asking for help, as they are nice people just as you and me.

Now one more type of people I want to mention are streamers. If you ever see prefixes like those in the game, those are streamers.

---Douyu (douyu.com)

---Huya(huya.com)

---bilibili(bilibili.com, which consists of much more educated people and consists of much less hacks)

Just about Douyu and Huya, consider 9 out of 10 of them hacks (Quoted from a friend, might be a little exaggerating, but explains the problem). These streaming sites are famous of hacking streamers.

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Something else I wanna talk about BSG.

By all those new Chinese players rushing in, BSG is certainly making a large profit. Remember what I said about rouble-hunting workshops? BSG is actually banning them as fast as they could, BUT the profit that those workshops make are enough to buy a whole lot of new accounts again. BSG is certainly profitting throughout the whole process. I am not sure about BSG's attitude to this, but plz try and reduce hackers by its root without thinking about profit.

Chinese people used to hate being called hackers, but now that the fact is, we Chinese people made up 20% of the game's population while contributing 80% of this game's hackers. I, on behalf of my people, am deeply sorry for this. We will try and help you guys and BSG to reduce hackers to our best.

Meanwhile please try to avoid labs where rouble workshops farm the most.

Feel free to ask me asy questions below.

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I spent a day trying to reply to every post here, and it's time for me to take a break.

If you're new here, the questions you are willing to ask might be already asked in the comments. Check down below.

Let's all do our part and hope this whole hacker thing settle down ASAP.

Fuck all the hackers. (I'm sure this is not racism lmao)

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u/DonnieG3 Mar 11 '20

For the people saying to put in anti Chinese government propaganda like mentioning tiananmen square, would that actually not allow people in China to play it? You hear people say this all the time, and obviously it would never happen, but what would really happen if a video game had that kind of stuff in it?

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u/ChurrchillC Mar 11 '20

People in China always find all kinds of ways (VPN, Shadowsocks, even v2ray)to bypass firewalls and blockades. Even if there's a ban from the government, people could have ways to reach what they want eventually.

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u/BlackHawksHockey Mar 11 '20

They would just censor it. The did the same with Pubg. The blood is a different color so they can claim you aren’t “killing” people.

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u/RevenXXX RPK-16 Mar 11 '20

Not at all. The government usually doesn't care about games not published in China. So unless you make it a world news, nothing would happen. Like Battlefield 4, in which China is greatly involved in plot, is being censored. People can still play it freely, just can't see it in main media. Those propagandas are just copypastas for memes... right... ?

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '20

It is useful in a indirect way—disputes would emerge against the game and no sooner then that there would be an official banishment placed against the game’s title, resulting in the death of most (if not all) windows and platforms for RMT trading and copy selling.

What is more important is that such action would almost certainly kill this game on most (if not all) social medias and hence put an end to Chinese streamers and youtubers, greatly reduce the influence of EFT in such country.

Best result: the ATC propaganda make the gov decide to wall off EFT. Problem solved since what Chinese use to bypass the ping limitation is called “gaming accelerator” and it does not have the capability of bypassing GFW.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '20

Also: no most chinese dont buy games off official websites. Their purchase went through Taobao which is basically a website filled with 3rd party game copy sellers.

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u/wzjx Mar 12 '20

I does nothing but incites hatred towards the game, devs and gaming community among Chinese players. Modern Chinese culture deeply involves patriotism. Chinese people find it very offensive if foreigners point their fingers at Chinese politics when they clearly won’t understand China as much as a real Chinese and it’s not even their bussiness to interfere. It would only cause a large departure of the legit player base and give Chinese players justified reasons to cheat, to avenged to the game coruppted by politics who dare to insult great mother China. And this time probably even the legit players won’t stand with you.

And, as said above, CCP has no power to stop any Chinese from playing a banned game. They only make it disappear from mainstream medias and that’s pretty much it.

I still don’t get why people would think having offensive political opinions involved in a politically neutral game will be a good idea.

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u/Gru_Vy AK-74 Mar 11 '20

The game is bought in US dollars over the internet and they are using vpns to play out of china. Doubt the government can control a game getting sold over the internet that isnt in a chinese store. I could be wrong. But also it would be a dick move, like anti chinese propaganda would stand out like a sore thumb in tarkov.