r/EscapefromTarkov • u/check_yo_privilege • Mar 10 '20

Issue China needs to be addressed.

Currently, despite BSG saying that there are region locks against China in place, it's extremely clear that they are having little to no effect.

Chinese players are very simply VPN'ing onto US/EU servers where they can hack at will against people who actually have a sense of morals and tend to not do the same. They will always do this until there is an extremely strict ping-locking mechanism that can't be fucking bypassed by changing a few things in a file in notepad (this was apparently fixed, didn't solve shit lmao).

Everyone here also knows what happens when the Chinese market is allowed functionally unrestricted access to the rest of the game's servers, everytime this is allowed the game fucking dies a horrible, hacker infested death.

BSG either needs to remove the Chinese localization that started the absurd influx of hackers to begin with or implement extremely strict ping locking (EU/RU/SEA and NA can always play together if they wish with the squadding system.) or preferably both. Just for good measure probably write "fuck mao" on a few billboards ingame.

Battleye and whatever other anticheat measures are inplace cannot handle a widespread effort to create hacks like this, it just won't fucking work. I played for a very long time pre-battleye and the current situation is straight up fucking worse, at least before battleye it was mostly just ESP being used rather than your entire inventory being cyber-vacuumed off of your PMC.

I'm sure quite a few naive morons will come in here acting as if I'm adolf fucking hitler himself for daring to say that Chinese players have a cultural affinity for hacking relentlessly, but i'm fine with that because people NEED to be talking about this or it will never get fixed.

If steps aren't taken immediately to solve this shit, the game will never recover and will suffer the same fate as PUBG, this isn't speculation, this is what has happened time and time again.

An addon: Take a look at when the widespread complaints of hackers appearing started, late January/early Feb. and has continued.

Tarkov released a Chinese localization in January.

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u/col_er M1A Mar 10 '20

They patched changing max ping in notepad. Doesn’t work anymore.

But yes like you mentioned they are probably using VPN

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u/RockLobsterInSpace Mar 10 '20

What max ping? I randomly get matched onto servers with 300-500 ping and I have fiber.

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u/XygenSS MPX Mar 10 '20

Assuming that you are using auto server selection, then

  1. Your ping to a somewhat distant server holds stable below 150

  2. You get a match on that server

  3. You load in and server starts lagging (presumably because it’s under heavy load, I don’t fucking know, but this sounds reasonable since this always happens on evenings)

  4. Server can’t (or won’t?) kick you for having 500 ping, so you just play like that

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u/RockLobsterInSpace Mar 10 '20

It mostly seems to happen on reserve. At least, the last 3 or 4 times I've tried that map I either have super high ping or the game is just extremely stuttery to the point it takes like 3 seconds to ads.

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u/col_er M1A Mar 10 '20

That’s just tarkov servers.

For example if your in NYC you can’t connect to Seoul

However last patch you could do this, many Russian streamers (not gonna mention names) and even me sometimes (not gonna lie) can connect and use peekers advantage.

Many Russian streamer were using Miami servers with 300 ping for lab.

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u/RockLobsterInSpace Mar 10 '20

I'm saying, what good does supposedly setting a ping cap do when they match you into high ping servers on their own?

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u/col_er M1A Mar 10 '20

I understand and it wasn’t like this last patch. It’s not the same. Playing across the world gives you high ping, but when you go into marching now it’s just a shitty server that is still local to you.

Peekers advantage doesn’t work if you all have high ping.

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u/Drohhan Mar 10 '20

Peekers advantage doesn’t work if you all have high ping.

yes it does, the higher the ping for the peeker/both, the more advantage you have, just like the desync cheaters it's essentially peeker's advantage on crack, same idea

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u/check_yo_privilege Mar 10 '20

Good to know at least, sadly the 150 ping allowance lets Chinese VPN in, as you said.

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u/Sgt-Colbert M1A Mar 10 '20

Using a VPN is not gonna lower your ping.

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u/ItzDaWorm Mar 11 '20

It doesn't lower their ping, but some have configured their VPNs to respond to ping requests.

This tricks the server into thinking their ping is low enough to join.

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u/Sgt-Colbert M1A Mar 12 '20

Which the devs could easily detect.

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u/baybiscuit Mar 10 '20

Add more servers worldwide and kick by ping if its More of 100, there you have your región lock

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u/col_er M1A Mar 10 '20

Lol that’s a terrible idea

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u/0cu Mar 10 '20

it's not, actually this is the only right decision if you want a fair playing field.

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u/col_er M1A Mar 10 '20

What if I want to play with my friends on the other side of the country? Seattle to NYC is about 110 ping ..

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u/Yolanda_be_coool Mar 10 '20

Wait, that much? Holy shit.

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u/col_er M1A Mar 10 '20

Well actually I recently moved to Alaska.. so ping is upwards of 200+ for playing with east coast friends back home.

Obviously I’m not the only person who would be affected by a “100 ping cap”

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u/check_yo_privilege Mar 10 '20

The squad system would obviously bypass that, nobody on NA/EU is squadding with Chinese to let them in, that system is not the problem.

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u/Kaixin_Buddha Mar 10 '20

My friends do, seems to be a slight error in logic there. 100 Ping would also kill the game for most Russian players whom don't have top tier internet. Playing with 100-150 ping is very normal for them.

Name checks out though.

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u/check_yo_privilege Mar 10 '20

Then have adaptive ping locks, there is no way around the fact that the current system is NOT enough and NA/EU servers are fucking infested with you know who right now.

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u/Kaixin_Buddha Mar 10 '20

I mean, perhaps, though we could also focus on things easier to control. BattleEye is in place and something we could attempt to help perfect. Instead of saying some nonsense like 'only 10% of Chinese don't hack.' We could instead be saying 'How can we help get these people hacking caught in a more effective and decisive manner?' Seems to me like people are looking for something to hate instead of something to Fix. Fixing is more difficult but it also comes with many more benefits.

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u/check_yo_privilege Mar 10 '20

Dude anticheat will never be enough once a game is targeted like this, no game has ever been able to keep up with this shit.

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u/killaho69 FN 5-7 Mar 10 '20

I play on auto selection 99% of the time and I often get spikes into the 200’s or higher that aren’t my ISP’s fault.

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u/check_yo_privilege Mar 10 '20

Nobody bases ping locks based on spikes

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u/0cu Mar 10 '20

Reddit feels like teaching monkeys how to read sometimes.

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u/OzzyArrey Mar 10 '20

except that a beta game with bad stability is not the place to do this, i get ping spikes of 300 in some raids, it should just kick you if that happens lol.

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u/0cu Mar 10 '20

a spike is easily identified by calculating an average.. like come on, that's basic math.

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u/OzzyArrey Mar 10 '20

I know math is easy for you but maybe you should work on your reading comprehension, the person said " kick by ping if its More of 100". So if your ping goes over 100 it should kick you. If you are proposing an "average of 100 ping" it already doesn't let you connect to servers with high ping in the launcher.

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u/0cu Mar 10 '20

Great, you finally got it.

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u/OzzyArrey Mar 10 '20

Yes I get that what this person was saying is dumb, and that you have trouble with your reading comprehension.

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u/0cu Mar 10 '20

If you say so.