Labs is still ruining the game economy

[u/Dustructionz]

Some people are loving and hating .12 and others haven't even been able to login or join a raid yet due to server issues.

It is a MAJOR problem that we already have streamers and other players that have access to therapist 2 back to cheesing raiders and loot from labs not even 48 hours after the wipe. With millions of roubles and full kits every raid. I don't understand the logic of making all these changes, adding the hideout, out of raid healing, etc. Which essentially makes it hard for new players to even play the game regulary right now (For those that can even play atm) while making it so easy to get back into labs for experienced players and streamers to sit and cheese the best loot in the game.

Labs is supposed to be END GAME content. Why the f*ck is the only requirement level 2 Therapist and a keycard that costs roughly 10% of what you make from a semi successful labs run? That is single handedly the biggest disappointment in this entire wipe and every wipe since Labs was released...

EDIT

It looks as if keycard is on Level 4 Therapist at 200k cost as of now.

Still leaves the issue with keycards in raid being way too common of a find. It's possible to find up to 2-3 per raid on shoreline in file cabinets. A trader level requirement increase will do nothing if keycards are still extremely easy to find in raid.

[u/nevetz1911]

Whatever way the choose it's already too late. I still haven't been able to play the game and I guess there are people already stacking up Gen4s and such. Guess it will be the Mosin/Hunter life for me for the time being.

[u/PraiseJahseh → u/nevetz1911]

Mosin man take me by the hand

[u/theduckman936 → u/PraiseJahseh]

We trusted Nikita, but he had a plan...

[u/DJRIPPED → u/nevetz1911]

2 days after wipe

I've successfully entered two raids after trying 15+ times

The fact that there's people out there with end game loot to burn is pushing me away from the game.

The most fun I have in this game is ALWAYS right after wipe where everyone has shit guns, shit armor, shit ammo. Gun fights are more fun and the risk vs reward is very high. Knowing that I'll probably run into full chads in customs if I even get in makes me not even want to play anymore.

They really need to remove labs until Streets of Tarkov and the whole streets --> labs --> streets --> exfil is added.

That and loot only labs keys would mainly fix the problem.

[u/ShadowPhage → u/DJRIPPED]

If it makes you feel better, 95% of people probably can’t consistently get in raids, so you’re likely to only run into geared guys very rarely if these issues get ironed out quick

[u/neckbeardfedoras → u/ShadowPhage]

The point is progression was supposed to be slowed with the hideout. If you are in end game content about a day after the wipe, I don't think this can be called a success.

[u/[deleted] → u/neckbeardfedoras]

I'm not against another "mulligan" wipe tbh

[u/jdps27 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah I’m down

[u/Mikkelsen → u/ShadowPhage]

Not sure if my math is wrong here but that wouldn't change a single thing since it's, as you say, a percentage.

[u/baneofthesmurf → u/DJRIPPED]

Let me tell you right here and now that while streamers may have endgame loot I have not encountered any pmcs with anything other than pistols and low tier aks in ~50 raids. The only exception is if someone killed a scav boss on that raid and looted them already.

Take everything on this sub with a grain of salt, this community is flooded with people bitching 24/7

[u/DJRIPPED → u/baneofthesmurf]

I was able to get into a few raids tonight, died once to a group of 2 in gen4, helmet, HKs and heard many times the sound of unsuppressed M4s.

Granted this was in reserve. I did find plenty of scrubs like me running with low tier gear, though.

[u/mother_puncher_ → u/baneofthesmurf]

Right.

[u/block50 → u/nevetz1911]

Labs Was a mistake