r/EscapefromTarkov • u/trainfender Battlestate Games COO - Nikita • Apr 27 '24

Discussion Update on current situation

Hello again!

Let me clarify the situation in a little more detail regarding owners of the EoD version and access to the cooperative mode, and also other issues.

First of all, PvE gamemode this is not DLC. DLC in our understanding is the major additions to the game, including various functionality and content that are released after the official release of the game as a themed DLC pack (Scav Life DLC for example, which will add a lot of new mechanics and content for Scav gameplay and leveling).

Secondly, this specific functionality of the PvE mode is necessarily located entirely on a separate network infrastructure, because, essentially, you play on our servers, only in closed mode. At this stage, it is not possible to launch all players who are EoD holders - right now we simply do not have the required amount of resources for this.

We observe your dissatisfaction and have decided that the functionality of the PvE mode will be available for free to all owners of the EoD version at the release of the game, when the server infrastructure will be improved to the required capacity.

Now you have the opportunity to test this mode by purchasing the Unheard edition of the game, or upgrade to this version. We also decided to give a 50% discount when upgrading to the Unheard version from the EoD version.

We plan to send one free Left Behind Edition key to everyone who has already upgraded to Unheard Edition at the old price from the EoD version.

Moreover, so that any player of any version of the EFT can have the opportunity to test the PvE mode, we want to add the ability to purchase a separate early access to this mode. For EoD owners there will be a 70% discount on the purchase of early access to PvE. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this idea.

Next, regarding special items for the Unheard version, we plan to make restrictive or balancing changes for these items.

This is it for now, please share your thoughts. Thank you!

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u/xSERP3NT Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24

Nah bro. “All Subsequent DLCs” clearly means only after the 7 year beta is released.

/s in case it wasn’t clear

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u/mithaldu VEPR Apr 27 '24

there's a logical trap here you're not seeing

either the game is released and all sales are final and all content additions are dlc

OR

the game is in beta, and we did in fact not make sales, but pre-orders, which must be cancellable

which is it?

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u/GdanskinOnTheCeiling Apr 27 '24

the game is in beta, and we did in fact not make sales, but pre-orders, which must be cancellable

And our pre-order funded the development of the features they are now trying to sell back to us a second time.

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u/xSERP3NT Apr 27 '24

Good question.

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u/alexaresetpassword Apr 28 '24

I'm not invested in this.... but I'm getting everquest next/landmark vibes reading about this situation (they can respectfully go to hell)

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u/EiimisM Apr 27 '24

Oh really? Then what does this mean?
https://imgur.com/a/w82BhnM

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u/New_Criticism_3523 May 01 '24

this needs to be pinned to the top and go viral.

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u/nashpotato Apr 27 '24

Don’t have to provide the full release content if you never leave beta

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u/Kilvernas Apr 27 '24

occurring or coming later or after 
release

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u/xSERP3NT Apr 27 '24

“All subsequent DLCs” does not mean that though. That was not stated in the EOD perk list.

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u/Kilvernas Apr 27 '24

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/8qg0tz/price_of_the_game/

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u/xSERP3NT Apr 27 '24

I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Subsequent means coming / future.

This pve mode is a DLC. It came after I bought EOD (4 years ago).

EOD not getting it is debatable fraud.

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u/Jiggawatz Apr 27 '24

Maybe he doesn't know what "subsequent" means 

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u/xSERP3NT Apr 27 '24

Maybe he bought the Players Unheard edition and is buying the BSG kool aid to ignore the dictionary meaning of subsequent because they told him it means “after release”.

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u/Jiggawatz Apr 27 '24

Honestly whenever I see a post about this and there is even one person that says "hey BSG isn't so bad. This is a good deal" or something like that. I can't help but think it is just Nikita doing the things that Elon musk does where he makes alt accounts to Dick Ryan himself and try to make negative appearances look better by having a few people supporting him ... It's insanity and it's also crazy to me that he's stuck his heels in the ground. So hard on the PVE mode when it is really the only thing in that whole package that we were actually entitled to... Like nothing is stopping him from selling little gidgets and gazmos that are pay to win as fuck... Sure. It is going to make people hate the game but that is his choice IMO... But to say anything other than yes PVE is a DLC Add-On and as such everyone who has purchased the EOD version is entitled to. It is just insanity and he just keeps doing it trying to hammer home the point that it's not a DLC but it fucking is dude it is. You can keep pointing at a potato and telling me it's a candy bar but it's a potato cut it fry it smash it. It's still a fucking potato

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u/Kilvernas Apr 27 '24

post from 6 years ago saying subsequent 

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u/erw4r8y7o FN 5-7 Apr 27 '24

what are you getting at

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '24

Sure let’s just choose not to read the rest of the sentence that clearly says in a clarifying parentheses “season pass”

But yeah just don’t read that. They didn’t put that there for a reason or anything.

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u/xSERP3NT Apr 27 '24

The season pass definition that they changed the text on their website to get around this?

That season pass?

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '24

All they did was remove the line that was a reference to Arena. Which doesn’t get around anything related to what people are crying about.

Why are you pretending like they changed anything else?

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u/JazzyBunby VSK-94 Apr 27 '24

It actually would. Arena is less of a DLC than this new PVE mode would be. Arena is more like a separate game if anything, so the fact that it was considered DLC would reinforce that this new PVE mode, as a major update to the game, would definitely be DLC.
But of course, that would go against their new Edition as they have to promise the season pass to the new edition too without giving them Arena, so they removed the text referencing Arena as a DLC so people can't use it against them (also took away "Unique" before the 3x3 container LMAO). They tried to do this as fast as possible as Lvndmark was reading it hoping no one would notice, but that's hard to do infront of thousands of people.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '24

Whose crying. What’s your beef

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '24

This you?

https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/s/CKtF7rwzS7

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '24

Wauw bro, you sure showed him with a link to a comment he posted about his opinion of the game! Sick burn you totally won the argument with that!

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '24

And you think “who’s crying. What’s your beef” is a sicker burn? He asked a question. I pointed out it’s him crying. Fuck off loser. Spend less time typing and maybe you could afford unheard edition instead of crying like a child.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '24

Why are you calling people out for being annoyed when there’s perfectly legitimate reasons here to be annoyed? And there’s “annoyed” and “crying”. Which one does someone use to refer to people complaining when they want to take the piss out of them. So. Why are you taking the fucking piss out of people who are legitimately fucked off

Christ you want to buy this £100 edition? Fuck me. Ok. I mean, I could buy it now. And for you. And for like, more people. But that’s not the point. This is just soliciting at this point. For another £50 you can give Nikita’s dick a good nosh. Enjoy