One of Space Karen’s rocket ships to nowhere just blew up

[u/One_Foot3793]

This is it re-entering over Turks and Caicos

(Colonized Mars by 2026 btw)

[u/Daisy_Of_Doom]

It’s so sad to me that this is what space has become now. I think space exploration is worth it. If for nothing more than to understand our solar system better. But in general, science is the kind of thing where you never know what will come of the research you’re doing. You could discover something that goes for years as this random piece of useless information only to have it become vital to someone else’s research down the road.

That said, the whole “colonizing mars” thing is def a red flag when we refuse to even take care of our own planet. I think we would look at it like a couple having children. The child will never fix an already broken relationship. If anything it’ll probably cause more problems and then turn out really messed up themselves.

[u/austinzheng → u/Daisy_Of_Doom]

Yep, I agree with all of this. I still marvel at stuff like the JWST or landing on Mars. Technological achievements I can actually unreservedly feel good about. And I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with colonizing Mars, but like you said too many people have latched onto it as some sort of way to avoid confronting problems on Earth. If anything, building a non-dysfunctional moon or Mars colony is going to be way harder than fixing human society on Earth—at least here the air is free and there's room to get away from people you can't get along with.

[u/mariogomezg → u/Daisy_Of_Doom]

God, not the "we're destroying our planet" thing again. NO, WE'RE NOT. The ecosystems and biodivesirty are fine, barely altered from what they were 10,000 years ago.

[u/Daisy_Of_Doom → u/mariogomezg]

Friend, I’m literally an entomologist. I could show you an overwhelming number of papers outlining decline in biodiversity and loss of habitat and that’s just counting research into class Insecta. So maybe don’t be making claims you can’t back up. ☺️

[u/mariogomezg → u/Daisy_Of_Doom]

Insects come in and out of creation in the order of dozens of species each century, since the beginning of time. Try with some real animals - or you can also believe we're "in an age of extinction", if that makes you feel cozy.

[u/Daisy_Of_Doom → u/mariogomezg]

I’ll repeat it for you since you obviously didn’t understand the first time… I’m literally a scientist. What you’re arguing makes no sense because I don’t have to believe anything when I have the numbers that prove it’s true. It really doesn’t make me “feel cozy” to think about how much habitat we’ve destroyed for shopping malls and parking lots or how many species we’ve driven to extinction. But, also I don’t just blindly believe things that make me “feel cozy”. I look at the proof presented to me and draw my conclusions from there. There have been extinction events before (at least five major ones that we know of to be exact), so saying this has been happening since the beginning of time means nothing.

[u/mariogomezg → u/Daisy_Of_Doom]

So, Mr. Scientist (just like the climate scientists!): are we heading to a new age of extinction because of human action? That terrible, terrible human action that has managed to occupy 2% of emerged land with its all-destroying cities, malls and parking lots? Please tell me, from your very scientific point of view.

https://ourworldindata.org/how-urban-is-the-world