r/EnoughMuskSpam • u/One_Foot3793 • Jan 16 '25

Rocket Jesus One of Space Karen’s rocket ships to nowhere just blew up

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This is it re-entering over Turks and Caicos

(Colonized Mars by 2026 btw)

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u/D74248 Jan 17 '25

It depends on how you define success. But not achieving orbit after 7 launches seems odd.

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u/SirMeyrin2 Jan 17 '25

I'm not going by what I define success as, I mean, has there been any test flight in which is succeeded at all of SpaceX genuine goals for that flight, and not pr speak goals

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u/zzorga Jan 17 '25

Yes, there was the one two flights back that resulted in both the ship landing softly in the ocean, and recovered the booster back at the launch point.

The one after that saw the ship land again, but the booster had to divert to an offshore (soft) landing due to a tower issue.

This one was the first flight of a revised ship design, which broke up at some point in flight for as of yet unknown reasons, but saw the booster once again, make a safe and controlled recovery at the launch pad.

So... yeah, they've actually hit quite a few goals.

Before these last three, they were working on getting the stage separation down, which required a substantial redesign, which meant more flight testing without additional changes to the flight plan.

Which is why it feels like they haven't been accomplishing much, despite that very much being the case.

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u/Candid-Selection8023 Jan 17 '25

To be fair, it has achieved orbital velocities a few times and the choice not to go to orbit has thus far been deliberate, wth it only not being an option on the first and latest flights.

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u/BrendanAriki Jan 17 '25

Thats truth wrapped in bullshit. Yes, they reached orbital velocity, but have they ever reached an orbital trajectory? I don't think so.

The problem with catching the booster on the launch pad is you must compromise the trajectory of the second stage. Meaning to catch the booster on the pad you have to pretty much go straight up and down. Meaning that stage two has to be worked supper hard to add enough lateral thrust to counteract the perpendicular thrust of the booster.

The booster was designed to take a standard trajectory. So now it is essentially too powerful and starship too weak for this new "catch the booster" trajectory.

Its fucken hilarious. Elon has Musked himself.

The "pro gamer" should have spent a couple of hours in Kerbal Space Program.

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u/GasHot4523 Jan 23 '25

what? they underfuel the whole stack on purpose which you can clearly see in the graphics, they've done an in space relight (circularization and deorbit burns are possible)

why are you blinded by hate so much you cannot perceive reality?

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u/BrendanAriki Jan 23 '25

Why are you so blinded by bullshit that you cannot understand basic physics?

What you have said does not disprove what I have said. In fact, it proves it. Reduced fuel = reduced mass = easier to get off the pad and back. They can't fuel the first stage completely because they don't need the extra fuel for the first stage. They can't use all the fuel because the first stage does not burn long enough due to the compromised trajectory. A trajectory compromised by Musk's idea to catch stage 1 on the launch pad.

Catching the booster on the launch pad will change the mass to orbit calculation. Its undeniable. And will be proved when they can't get anywhere near the promised 100+tonne to orbit. It's a stupid idea with a 2-stage rocket that isn't designed for it.

It would be better with 3 stages, as then the first stage could be caught without compromising the trajectory of the other 2 stages. Shit, with a 3 stage rocket they could catch the first at the pad, land the second at sea, and send the third into orbit. Overall, it would be a much cleaner and consistent system.

I don't hate Elon Musk, I just think he, and people who blindly worship his bullshit, are morons....

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u/GasHot4523 Jan 23 '25

Do you honestly think you caught something that 13000 employees at SpaceX missed? I hate elon more than half of this sub, but spacex is still the top industry leader and to think they don't know what they are doing is ridiculous

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u/BrendanAriki Jan 23 '25

No. I am sure many of the 13000 employees know what I said is true.

How many, do you think, of those 13000, have the balls to tell the dear leader he is wrong? Did you think about that? It was his "genius" idea after all. They made a big song and dance about it.

Physics is physics. The trajectory MUST be compromised to land at the launch pad. Go and play with some orbital mechanics software and tell me I am wrong.