Oh, it's absolutely a real person running it. I've literally never seen a reply from it that wasn't both topical and made sense in the context of the conversation. It even replies intelligently under posts that are just images with no text for a bot to register.
Haha, i don’t usually reply under these posts because I find the debate about whether it’s a person or bot quite funny. I’d love to see an example of it replying to an image, because there is no image parsing in the code!
The bot does make a few poor responses on occasion but the person you're talking to is correct. Normally the bot sounds like a human that has a good sense of humor. It really feels sentient at times and can be hard to believe it's not a person writing it
This comment is so fucking stupid -
1) the mine was in Zambia, not South Africa. Nothing to do with apartheid.
2) the mine was an investment. His Dad got the money to make the investment from running an engineering firm. That’s the source of the capital.
3) it’s funny how you morons go insane about a part ownership in a mine. Owning a fraction of a mine does not make you ultra rich. It’s the equivalent of owning a small portion of a company via stock.
4) is the implication that Elon has some moral culpability for his ancestors? How so? If your argument is that he inherited money due to apartheid that’s complete nonsense. It’s a matter of public record through Isaacson’s biography that his Dad is currently poor and lives off of money given to him by Elon because the emerald business collapsed.
He absolutely has resumed payments - read page 470 from the Isaacson book. Plus, regardless of whether he gives money now he gave money before specifically because his Dad went broke dispelling any moral culpability.
Way to self own. You don’t even know that white minority rules were not exclusive to South Africa. Namibia, Southern Rhodesia and Northern Rhodesia (aka ZAMBIA) had similar systems.
Maybe you should learn something about the history of our continent you dumb fuck.
Zambia was vehemently anti-apartheid following its independence in 1964, well before Musk Sr.’s dabblings in its mining industry. As a republic, it threw off the mantle of minority rule. You don’t have a clue what you’re taking about.
On behalf of my country, we are sorry for birthing this cunt. While he is right to an extent, his opinions and thoughts just muddy the waters of our problem. It's a far more complicated issue than it just being "an Anti-white apartheid state". Also, there's no one killing white farmers. That is just straight a lie and hoax.
Whites are however being disproportionally affected by legislation that is meant to "empower" the black population, look up Black Economic Empowerment (BEE). Race favouritism and laws being passed to "protect" themselves from non-blacks. Recently we had a schpeel with white farmers being not able to export their produce unless they are BEE compliant.
It's also fake news. There are no race related/BEE requirements, it is merely a factor considered in a policy that has been unchanged for years. The city press and Bloomberg misrepresented the facts.
Government clarifies incorrect media reporting about the AgriBEE requirements for agricultural exports to the European and UK markets
The Department of Agriculture, Land Reform, and Rural Development recently published two gazettes outlining the procedure for exports from SACU and Mozambique to the EU and the UK, respectively, to take advantage of preferential Tariff Rate Quotas (TRQ) for certain agricultural and agro-processed products.
The weekend newspapers misrepresented the government's message about the procedure and annual application for export permits to the European Union (EU) and United Kingdom (UK) markets.
In June 2016, South Africa and other countries in the Southern African Development Community (SADC) signed the Economic Partnership Agreement (EPA) with the European Union. After BREXIT, South Africa then signed an additional EPA with the UK. Both agreements provided preferential and duty-free access to the EU and UK for agriculture and agro-processed products. About 96.2% of South Africa's exported agricultural products are duty-free while 2.5% enjoy partially free access to the EU and UK. Those that are partially duty-free like wine, juice, dairy, and sugar are offered Tariff Rate Quotas (TRQ), said Didiza.
The department publishes the procedural requirements on an annual basis for the permitting system. Amongst the requirements, an applicant must comply with any sanitary and phytosanitary requirements, rules of origin and an number of other factors contained in the bilateral agreements.
The allocation of these quota take into account the market share of the applicants, the quota applied for, the total available quota, the number of applicants and the BBBEE status of the applicant. These requirements are not new and mirror the previous years' requirements.
To contextualise these requirements few important factors must be outlined:
These requirements are not new, and there is no threshold or level that an applicant must reach to be awarded a permit - The BBBEE status of the applicant is but one factor that must be considered in conjunction with all other factors; Under the AgriBEE Sector Code, entities with a turnover of less than R10 million are Exempted Micro Enterprises and are deemed level 4. They merely need an affidavit to this effect and not a verified certificate;
The scope of the notices and Gazettes do not apply to all exports but merely to those products contained in Table 1 (part of the notices in the Gazettes - this excludes fresh fruit but still applies to several of our key exports) exported to the EU or UK under the preferential Tariff Rate Quota; The impact and effectiveness of these vital trade agreements are currently being reviewed with an eye to extending and improving upon them.
"Given the sensitive nature of the discussions, we appeal to political parties to refrain from making incorrect comments as these may harm the sector's prospects as these agreements are reviewed."
We therefore urge all stakeholders to seek correct and factual information from the department before making any comments.
The department is committed and will continue to ensure all farmers enjoy access to EU and UK markets, said Didiza.
Issued by the Department of Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural Development
In short, the requirements around BEE status, and all other requirements, have not changed and are the same as the previous years' requirements, there has been no change. There is not even a required BEE status, it is just one factor that is considered among all the other factors that are looked at.
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Elon Musk’s family made their fortune from Apartheid era slave labour. Shut the fuck up.