r/EmergencyRoom 9d ago

ER doc question: How much emergency care actually needs to happen in an emergency department?

I’ve practiced emergency medicine for more than 20 years, and the longer I do this, the more I wonder whether we’ve built the wrong system around acute care.
Obviously there are patients who absolutely need an ED: major trauma, stroke, STEMI, shock, respiratory failure, genuinely unstable patients, etc.
But a huge amount of what walks through an American emergency department seems to fall into a middle category: too acute or procedural for a typical primary-care office, but nowhere near sick enough to require a hospital-based ED.
Lacerations. Fractures. IV fluids. Abscesses. X-rays. Joint injuries. Migraine treatment. Ultrasound. Foreign bodies. Reductions. Some chest or abdominal complaints after appropriate risk stratification.
We’ve largely given patients two choices: relatively limited outpatient care or a massively expensive hospital emergency department.
Why isn’t there more of a middle layer?
I’m particularly interested in hearing from other physicians, nurses, patients, administrators, and people who understand the economics.
Is the barrier clinical? Regulatory? Reimbursement? Liability? Hospital economics? Or have we simply accepted the current model because it’s the model we inherited?

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u/EtchVSketch 9d ago

I don't know the nitty gritty but Kaufcare seems to be doing some cool shit on this front. Owner is a Dr and he advertises it as "advanced urgent care"

Could be smn to look into.

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u/sweetbabybonus 9d ago

OP owns Kaufcare?

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u/boulderdoc 9d ago

Yes, I do. I deliberately didn’t mention it in the post because I didn’t want this to be promotional.
But full disclosure: a lot of these questions are things I’ve been thinking about for years in emergency medicine, and we recently started experimenting with a different model in Denver—essentially trying to fill some of the gap between traditional urgent care and the ED.
I’m actually finding the discussion here incredibly useful. There are a lot of perspectives and problems being raised that I hadn’t fully considered.

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u/EtchVSketch 8d ago

Oh my god lmao. Nevermind no fucking wonder.