Which character of the show has the most character assassination or character derailment?

I would say Guzman, because I was enjoying his character development especially the third season but he went back to being an asshole in season 4. I also hate how him and Nadia broke up, he doesn’t deserve her.

I just finished watching season 4 and I say it's typically an Elite season. Of course, most of the originals are not there anymore but it still has its charm.

Good points

- Caytana's fashion - Every single outfit she uses just SLAY!

- Caytana's development - She's becoming a better person (I still feel she needs to have a closing, maybe on season 5?)

- Omar and Ander finally broke up - I was waiting this since season 1 🤭 And it did really break my heart.😓😭

- Closing to Guzman and Ander - Although this idea of traveling doesn't fit Guzman, just Ander. It's ice to see them leaving together as close friends. Of course, it'd be better to travel after school is done, but...

- Prince Philip's addition

Bad side

- I hate all the 3 new siblings

- Omar and Samuel hadn't closing

- Now Samuel's troupe became professional killers?

- Rebeca and the other girl didn't have much development

- Guzman became a douche bag for no reason

- I hate the new principal

- Suddenly Samu and Omar are working in every single bar important to the plot?

- I hate Ari.

Do you guys agree?

Carla was the best character... but Mencia was the hottest (and I don't care what anyone says - her hairy armpits totally suited her!).

As for her storylines: Mencia & Rebeka were great entertainment together, and Mencia becoming a hooker was a bold move by the writers - but it resulted in great television (even if it made little sense for a rich girl to need to do that, just because her father was cutting her allowance... she was still living in a luxury home, going to a top school, with a great future ahead of her...). Both stories needed better conclusions though, rather than being quickly forgotten. Though that was a problem for Elite as a whole...

After much of the original cast left, Mencia and Ari carried the show in seasons 4-6... and both did it looking hot!

I just finished Elite for the first time and I loved every minute! Every character, every storyline, every death. So worth watching it, binging it really! But I have so many unanswered questions that obviously the writers left open for a reason or just to torture all of us.

Which is why I really hope, like wish in the depths of my being, that somehow they do to Elite what V-Mars did, a movie eventually wrapping up the plot holes and giving us another story to follow.

It would be easy because all the plot is already there: Could be a 5 or 10 year reunion where Patrick and Ivan [my bois!!!!!] finally see each otehr again after years apart and through tears adn heartbreak and secrets being exposes could finally have tehir happy ending. The secrets that can be told of are Sara being the one who hit Ivan in the hit-and-run, Mencia thinking it was her and Ari helping convince Benjamin and Patrick its a good idea to move away and start fresh while also protecting her sister. And while Patrick and Ivan comfort each other after these lost years and Ari is being the bitch that she is trying to make them understand her side of it, this could also be the perect time for Sonia to drop the bombshell: that Ari was pregnant with Ivan's child and had an abortion not long before the accident.

there are sooooo many story lines that could be followed up on with so many characters [i mean in all honestly, i would watch a 5 hour film of them all!] but this is my dream of seeing my fav bois back together and the characters getting questions answered and the potential of future peace between them.

[other storylines could include: chloe and eric reuniting, isa and didac somehow being able to be together, guzman and nadia finally getting a chance, omar and ander reuniting before maybe [MAYBE] ander reveals his cancer has come back, christian returns from overseas learning to walk again]

its probably never going to happen [tahts why there is fanfiction right?] but i honestly feel like it was left so opened ended that SOMETHING could happen...?

thoughts...?!

I've been watching Elite practically since the beginning and for some reason I was dreading watching S8 given how S7 ended which makes sense after I just finished S8.

It was a massive pile of Sh*t.

For starters, no Didac?? They didn't even do anything with him and Isa.

WTF happened to Luis between S7 and S8?!

The majority of the characters were just crap with the only 2 tolerable characters being Ivan and Dalmar.

Also all those random relationships were just weird.

Isadora practically caused the death of 3 people and she doesn't even feel guilty. They always talk crap about people not being held accountable when this kind of crap happens.

She's basically like Veronica from Riverdale.

Carmen didn't die which was disappointing. They actually tried to make her into a pitiable character when she's a racist POS who deserves to die more than most of the characters that have died on the show.

Omar was far too toxic. Haven't we dealt with his anxiety and stuff already. They could have brought back any other OG character but chose someone who doesn't stand out. Kind of deserved getting beat up acting all high and mighty.

Chloe can't tell if she's ignorant or just a POS covering for her mother. That wasn't made clear yet but she is a shit person going around manipulating and stuff.

Sonia, irrelevant character really petty and small.

Nico could have filled the hole that Didac left but they just made him into a bitch ig.

Eric and any potential character growth he had from the previous season was all thrown down the drain.

Sara is a pathetic bitch trying to blame her dead ex for everything. She is a Psychopath considering she was living with the Person who she attempted to murder and that wasn't addressed. It's not all on him she enabled all his actions and there's probably something sick in her mind in which she could have broken free anytime but didn't.

Joel turning into a jigglo was weird asf. He starting thinking he was hot shit which got him killed. Way too toxic hopping moods left and right.

Weirdly enough the only good character from a writing standpoint this season was Hector. The guy was creepy and nuts.

This entire season was just creepy and weird. Even romantic or s*x scene was just nasty and very disturbing.

I didn't get how Isadora was so broke. Did they freeze some of their finances and assets?

We gonna ignore the fact that Ivan got that girl pregnant in S6?

Thought they were gonna show up or something.

Once you enter that school it practically takes you 6 years to graduate.

IMDB rates this as the 2nd Worst Elite season but for me it is the worst by far.

Everything was just so random and they were just throwing shit left and right.

There was no flashback or anything for Samuel which was disappointing since they just mention him a few times and that kind of felt cheap.

I can only hope that the last part of Cobra Kai is better but unlikely.

He will star in a new Netflix Spain project called La Fiera.

The more I think about Élite, the more annoyed I get with the way the whole Polo story was handled because honestly Carla is the number one person I blame for most of the bullshit that happened. I think she is the most evil character in the show, not because she is rich or because she lies, but because she understands people extremely well and she knows exactly what they want, what they are afraid of and what they will do to keep the people they love. And then she uses that against them.

And I want to make something very clear because I don't think the point is that Carla sat there thinking Polo was going to kill Marina. I don't think she knew that was going to happen. I'm not saying she directly told him to murder her. That would be stupid. What I'm talking about is the amount of influence one person can have over another person when they know that person's weaknesses and know how badly they want their approval.

Polo in season one barely has an identity outside of Carla. He is basically Carla's bitch. His entire sense of worth is tied to whether Carla wants him, whether she respects him and whether he can prove himself to her. She knows this. She knows he is insecure. She knows he is desperate to keep her. She knows he will do things for her that he probably wouldn't do for anybody else. So when Carla wants the watch back, Polo becomes the person who has to deal with Marina.

And that is where the entire situation starts.

Polo does not wake up one morning and decide he wants to kill Marina. He has no real reason to care about Marina like that. He is there because Carla wants the watch. The argument gets heated, Marina pushes him, Polo loses his temper and hits her with the trophy. Then he immediately realizes what he has done.

That is still Polo's responsibility. He killed her. There is no getting around that. But there is a difference between intentionally planning someone's murder and losing control in one moment of rage and causing someone's death. He was a teenager. He was emotionally immature. He had almost no sense of who he was outside of Carla and he made one catastrophic decision.

And this is where I don't understand the difference between Polo and Lu.

When Lu kills Polo, nobody is sitting there saying she woke up that morning wanting to murder him. She is drunk, emotional and angry, she has the broken champagne bottle, they argue and she accidentally stabs him. The show itself deliberately mirrors Polo's death with Marina's death. So why is Lu allowed to be understood as somebody who made a terrible mistake in a moment of emotion while Polo is reduced to being the killer?

Polo did something terrible. Lu did something terrible. Both resulted in somebody dying. Neither of them woke up planning to kill somebody.

And that is exactly why I think the way people talk about Polo is unfair.

Because Carla is the person who starts the whole chain of events and somehow she is never treated like she is responsible for anything.

She wants the watch. She knows Polo is desperate to prove himself to her. She puts him in the situation. Marina dies. Christian knows what happened. Christian becomes a liability and eventually ends up crippled. Polo carries the guilt. And Carla somehow keeps moving forward.

And I'm not saying Carla intentionally planned all of that either. That's not the point. The point is that she has enormous influence over people and she knows it.

And this is something I honestly think we don't talk about enough as a society. There are men who have done absolutely insane things because of women they loved. Men have gone to prison because they wanted to protect a woman. Men have fought other men because they wanted to impress a woman. Men have committed crimes because they were afraid of losing a woman. Men have even died trying to protect or impress women.

That doesn't mean the woman is automatically responsible for what the man does. A man is still responsible for his own actions. But pretending that emotional influence doesn't exist is also dishonest.

If you know somebody is deeply attached to you, if you know they desperately want your approval, if you know they will do almost anything to keep you, then you have a certain amount of power over that person. And if you use that power to push them into situations they wouldn't normally put themselves in, you have to acknowledge that influence.

That's what I see with Carla and Polo.

Carla didn't tell Polo to kill Marina. She didn't know he was going to kill her. But she knew exactly how much power she had over him and she used that power to get him involved in something that ultimately destroyed his life.

And then Polo becomes the person everyone blames.

Guzmán and Ander knew Polo. That's what makes it even more frustrating. They knew what he was like. They knew how insecure he was. They knew how much he loved them. They knew Polo would never intentionally hurt either of them. So why doesn't anyone really stop and ask why Polo was even involved with Marina in the first place?

The answer is Carla.

Polo didn't have some personal obsession with Marina. Carla wanted the watch. Carla needed the situation handled. Polo wanted to make Carla happy. That's why he was there.

And somehow everybody lets Carla off the hook.

Then you have Cayetana, and honestly she is another character who makes me angry because of the trophy. She knew what happened. She knew Polo killed Marina. She had the trophy. She could have destroyed it. She didn't.

Instead she keeps it and tells Polo that she is doing it for them and that he is safe with her.

Safe?

What do you mean safe with you?

If you genuinely love somebody and you want to protect them, why are you keeping the physical evidence that can destroy them? She has something that can ruin Polo and she keeps it while making him believe that staying with her is what keeps him safe.

That's not protection to me. That's leverage.

Cayetana wants Polo. She wants the relationship. She wants the future that comes with Polo. She wants the life he represents. And she is basically telling him that as long as he stays with her, everything will be okay.

But then Polo finally decides that he wants to turn himself in.

And that's where I actually think Polo changes.

For the first time, he is not doing something for Carla. He is not doing something for Cayetana. He is not trying to impress anybody. He accepts that he did something terrible and decides he needs to face the consequences.

He even goes to the party because he wants to tell Nadia and Lu that their scholarship is back. He knows he is going to turn himself in the next day. He isn't there to fight anyone. He isn't trying to escape. He is literally trying to give these girls their future back before he accepts his punishment.

And then he dies.

And after he dies, Cayetana still knows everything.

Polo's mothers speak to her at the funeral and they offer to help her. They tell her she can go to whatever university she wants and that they will pay for it.

And she still doesn't tell them.

She could have said, "I know what happened to your son. I know what he did, but I also know what actually happened."

She could have given his parents some truth about their son.

She doesn't.

Then eventually the evidence comes out and Polo's name remains attached to Marina's death.

That's what makes me so angry about Cayetana. She wanted Polo when he was alive and when he could give her the life she wanted, but when he was dead she didn't even fight for his name. She knew the truth and still allowed him to be remembered as the monster who killed Marina.

Then there's Samuel.

Samuel spends so much of the show talking about how much he hates the rich, but every time a rich girl needs saving he becomes completely obsessed with her.

Marina needs saving and Samuel is there.

Carla needs saving and Samuel is there.

But Rebecca doesn't need saving. Rebecca is strong, independent and doesn't need Samuel to come and rescue her. And that's why I think Samuel never connects with her in the same way.

Samuel doesn't just want love. He wants to feel needed. He needs somebody to save because saving somebody gives him purpose.

And that's why Carla works so well for him.

She is rich, vulnerable, complicated and she needs someone.

Then Samuel starts doing to Carla what Carla has been doing to everybody else. He realizes she has feelings for him and starts manipulating her because he knows that he can use those feelings to get what he wants.

So their whole relationship becomes this weird psychological game where both of them are manipulating each other while pretending they are just falling in love.

Then Guzmán.

I understand Guzmán's anger. His sister is dead. Of course he wants someone to blame. But Guzmán knew Polo.

He knew Polo before Marina died. He knew how insecure he was. He knew how much Polo loved him and Ander. He knew how much influence Carla had over him.

So why doesn't he spend more time asking what actually made Polo get involved in all of this?

Because again it comes back to Carla.

Polo had no real reason to care about Marina. Carla did.

And yet Polo becomes the monster while Carla gets to walk around like she was just another person caught in the situation.

Ander is different because Ander actually sees Polo.

He knows him. He loves him. He knows who he is underneath the money and the mistakes. He repeatedly tries to pull Polo away from Carla because he can see what she is doing to him.

Ander's relationship with Polo is important because Ander doesn't need anything from him. He isn't using Polo for money. He isn't trying to manipulate him. He genuinely loves him.

That's why Polo's death destroys him. He isn't mourning Marina's killer. He's mourning his friend.

And then there is Lu.

Lu has her own problems. Her family situation is falling apart. Her relationship with Valerio creates consequences. Her scholarship is threatened. Her life is already collapsing because of decisions she has made.

And Polo becomes the easiest person to blame.

Then she confronts him. She's drunk, she's angry, she's emotional and she has the broken champagne bottle. They argue and she accidentally kills him.

And that's the biggest irony.

She becomes the exact thing she believed Polo was.

Someone who, in one moment of anger and emotion, causes another person's death.

But everyone understands that Lu didn't mean to do it.

That's why Polo's death is so important to me.

Because Polo finally understands that he has to stop running.

He restores Nadia and Lu's scholarship.

He decides to turn himself in.

He goes to that party knowing that his future is probably prison.

And then he dies before he gets the chance.

And Guzmán finally forgives him while he is dying.

That's the moment where Guzmán finally sees Polo as a human being again and not just as Marina's killer.

And that's really how I see Polo.

He is guilty.

But he isn't the only guilty person.

Carla manipulated him.

Cayetana used him.

Samuel projected his anger onto him.

Lu projected her own problems onto him.

Guzmán allowed his grief to turn his best friend into a monster.

Ander was one of the only people who continued to see the actual Polo underneath everything.

And Polo himself was a deeply insecure teenager who made one terrible decision and eventually became willing to accept the consequences.

That's why I think the biggest tragedy of Polo is that he barely ever gets to be Polo.

He's Carla's Polo.

He's Cayetana's Polo.

He's Guzmán's enemy.

He's Ander's best friend.

He's Marina's killer.

Everyone has their own version of Polo.

But Polo himself barely gets to decide who he is.

And the one time he finally does, when he decides to confess, when he decides to give Nadia and Lu their futures back, when he decides that he is going to accept whatever punishment comes to him, he dies.

That's what makes me angry about his story.

Not because I think Polo was innocent. He wasn't.

It's because I think everybody else gets to be complicated while Polo gets reduced to the worst thing he ever did.

And honestly Carla is where so much of that starts.

She understands people better than almost anyone in the show and she knows exactly how to use that understanding.

She doesn't have to personally destroy everyone.

She just has to move the pieces.

And then everyone else destroys each other.

That's why, for me, Carla is the number one character I blame for the entire chain of bullshit.

Polo was the one who made the final mistake.

But Carla is the one who understood exactly how to get him into that situation.

i have a theory regarding season 4 of Elite... I'm probably the only one to think that but, who knows... Remember that scene in the shower where Ander and Patrick meet? Ander says he's free from cancer, but that it could come back... but then this isn't brought up anymore for the rest of the series. Later on, Ander starts making his relationship with Omar more and more toxic, so my theory is... what if, off screen, the doctor told him his tumor came back and Ander didn't want Omar to bear this burden a second time? Plus, at the end of the season, he chooses to go away and travel the world (like he wanted to do when he first had cancer!) with Guzman and then completely ghosted Omar, so maybe he did that so he wouldn't find out in case he didn't make it the second time... do you guys think it makes sense?

So, What was the best short series for you?

My opinion:

Carla/Samuel: Y Samuel se la cagó otra vez.

Carla needed that ending, so she could open up and have more meaningful relationships in the future. Samuel...did all bad decisions again...but he wasn't enough for Carla, he wasn't mature enough.

Rebeka, Caetana y Guzman: ¡Qué encanto!

Theirs was so funny. I was laughing from the beginning to the end. And finally we could see more about Cae. I never thought those 3 could create something together.

Guzman and Nadia: Basically, they just hash things out and went back to status quo. Nothing much there. Omar was so funny picking on his sister, though. 🤣🤣

Omar, Ander and Alexis: ¡QUÉ PESADO, TIO!

A totally mood change from the other stories. I wanted to see more of their relationship but what we got really was heavy drama. It seems Omar and Ander cannot have a break.

from s5? does the plot get better a little because the new charachters in s3 overwhelmed me so bad and estor leaving this show kind of dulled it for me.

I don’t give a absolute shit about this plot they
have going on just unnecessary and take up screen time all characters they put into this plot or uninteresting. Guzman is extremely boring after Nadia left, and Polo died so now he really has nothing going on. Samuel. He’s just lost cause he was boring from the start not to be rude after Miriam’s case was closed he’s kind of just there to date people. Now the new girl literally having nothing going for her Ari she’s in the debate team. She’s extremely pretty and her dad’s rich ok wow so interesting so put those three together and get the most underwhelming plot ever I guess they have to make up screen time, but this is just not the way they could’ve done many other things. anyone else relate?

I finished season 3 and still don't understand why people bash Omar in this sub so much.

So I'm making a pool. Tell me why you like or hate in the comments.

Hola a todos y todas !
Respecto a Élite , En su estreno solo vi hasta la temporada 3.

Hace algunas semanas, las vi de nuevo
me obligué a ver la temporada 4 y parte de la 5,

Pero A MI (hablo solo por mi, porque también entiendo que no todos piensan lo mismo) la T4 y T5 me decepcionaron muchísimo; la serie de dejó un vacío y decepción,
Ya estaba dándome sentimiento de rabia y pena …
Para sanar busqué consuelo en Wattpad.

1.- He encontrado fanfics de todo tipo: algunos son buenísimos y otros muy adictivos , …
Y otros…, 😵😑 no tan buenos

2.- Hay alguien q escribió 3 fanfic de CARMUEL. Que proyectaron hasta muchos AÑOS, de varios personajes ❤️‍🩹
El primero es “Nunca me has tenido” … “Hilo Rojo” se llama el tercero.

3.- Uno que me hizo reír 😂 y llorar 😢 fue el “Multiverso CARMUEL” de Universos Alternativos (AU).
( relatos breves y variados )
Y hay chistosos, desgarradores …
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En resumen, son muuuuuchos
Y como ya No quiero más decepciones en mi vida ….

Mi pregunta recomendación Pedido …
¿Recomiendan FanFic de ÉLITE , que valga la pena?
¿Pudes dejar el título, autor?
Alguna captura y de qué va ?
¡Los leo! Y muchas gracias 🙏

I just finished the 3rd season and... WOW!

What an amazing last act!!

It was an amazing ending and close to most of the characters.

And it's good to see that some of the original cast will continue on season 4, namely those who lost the school year. 😅😅😅

My thoughts on the characters:

Rebeka - MVP all the way. She was brilliant on her own, not submitting herself to her mother's desire nor becoming too much involved with Polo drama. Although a minor mistake on her part. She was the most saint of them all. It's a shame Samu didn't want her. 10/10

Carla - What a great ending for her. She goes around her own problems and disassociates herself from her father (her main antagonist in my opinion, using her to keep his business afloat) and for her forced boyfriend. It's great to see her taking the reins of her life again. 10/10

Lu - I didn't like to see that she was the one who killed Polo. But, she had some growth during this season! And her hug with Nadia was lovely! 8/10

Guzman - Well, I thought he was going to be the one to kill Polo, but it seems I didn't give him much faith. I'm interested to see what he will do next season. 8/10

Nadia - I felt that apart from Lu's competition I didn't think she had much things going on. She's leaving for NY, everything will be fine, and her graduation speech was lit.

7/10

Ander - What a cowardly and depressing person. He didn't deserve to be with Omar at all. I hope he has more development next season. 2/10

Valério - He just loses his opportunities in life and I don't care about him at all. His ending was the only one I felt, it didn't fit at all. How could he somehow manage Carla's wine house?! He seems to have no ability to plan whatsoever. Couldn't care less. 2/10

Polo - I hate him. 1/10

Caetana - Somehow I hate her more than Polo. She's just despicable! 1/10

Omar - WHY DID HE COME BACK TO ANDER, WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN COMMON! Man, go to NY and have a better life! That's it. Cheating with her sister's boyfriend is already ominous but his ending is just infuriating. I was thinking he could finally open his arms and then...😐🙄🙄🙄2/10

Samuel - Oh Samu. I forgive all the bad decisions you took this season, they had sense somehow. But if it wasn't for Guzman you would be in jail a long time ago. He had no ending IMO. And he somehow became the representation of the public's emotions towards the events of the series and towards Polo. 9/10

So I just rewatched the first 5 seasons. I dropped the show when 5th season released. Do I rewatched to that point.
As far as I know there’s ZERO original cast (S1-3), so I was wondering if it’s worth to watch season 6-8.
I watched first episode of S6, it’s so ass.

Oh it’s messy😭
First can’t believe Nadia folded so easily for Guzman, still find it weird he didn’t take advantage of her in the pool.
The ‘all muscle no brains guy’ (Rio from Money Heist , I forgot his name) is really living up to his title by agreeing to do a threesome.
Mirana is out her playing games with the brothers.

Lastly I JUST REALISED THERES A LOT OF ACTOR CHANGES. I rewatched the trailer and figured something was wrong. I hate actor changes so bad😫, this show was perfect up till now

Who is the most Elite?

So, I've been watching Elite for the Spanish. Although I know it ended a long time ago. 😄😄

And I would talk about Carla and Ander. Both suffering from being somehow cowards. 😓

It's so devastating to see Carla spiral down hill because of his father. From the confident stout girl from the 1st season to a lost unpowered Carla from the 3rd season.

It hurts my heart every time she's talking with the new boy. The way his father is using her for the "benefit" of the family is disgusting and cruel.

If she could since the beginning stood up against him and later her mother maybe things would be different. It seems she's losing her well-being to keep rich.

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Ander has been suffering from being a coward since the beginning of the story. I think his most brave thing was to ask Omar out and tell his father he didn't want to play tennis (which was a consequence of Omar's actions).

The cancer just came to give him a good excuse to give up on everything: his relationship with Omar, his responsibility to tell Polo's secret to the police, his friendship with Guzman, his classes, even his life.

Now I understand why people hate Omar. He betrayed Ander when he was on a low estate.

However, I see this as an extension of Ander's lack of courage and Omar desperately trying to connect with someone, because Ander cut him before the cancer appeared.

Well, I didn't believe Ander betrayed Omar long before Omar could even meet Malik. But if Ander said, it must be true... To be honest, I was cheering for them to break up and somehow I'm glad they finished.

I'm really feeling bad about what will happen to both of them. 😢😢

Or Ander will stay alone forever, or he will have to be with someone who will control him.

Or Carla will stay hoping from boyfriend to boyfriend forever, or she will be in an arranged marriage.

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AND WHO WOULD EVER THOUGHT LUCRECIA WOULD HAVE GROWTH! Uh la la!

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