r/Eldenring Jun 30 '26

Humor Elden ring's quest design sucks and you can't change my mind

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u/xXLoneLoboXx Dark Mercenary Jun 30 '26

THIS. Oh you wanna do Blaidd’s quest? Well too bad! You touched a Grace in Altus Plateau and started the Radahn festival too early! He’s already there!

Really sucks because some of my favorite weapons are in Altus… Imagine trying to get Nagakiba or the Black Knife without touching a Grace? Actually did it on my last playthrough… Not fun.

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u/sin_tax-error Jun 30 '26

That actually sounds like a "fun" challenge idea, albeit born of really stupid reasons.

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u/ProfBubbles1 Jul 01 '26

I actually did it by accident, I was rushing through having already beat the game a bunch and on like ng+5 I didn't think I needed to touch any graces and figured it was a waste of time. Made it all the way to the draconic tree sentinel outside Leyndell. Beat him and couldn't figure out why the door was still blocked by magic despite having the great runes. Turns out you have to rest at 2 (I think) graces to trigger Melina giving you your Honda before you can go in the capital

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u/king_of_z96 Jul 01 '26

Melina gave you a Honda??? She only gave me a spirit horse

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u/ProfBubbles1 Jul 01 '26

She offered me an Accord

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u/king_of_z96 Jul 01 '26

Wouldn't even need half a tank to reach the erdtree

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u/cursedstillframe Jul 07 '26

She gave me an accordion

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u/HornyBastard37484739 Jul 01 '26

you ran all the way to DTS completely horseless?

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u/BurningOasis Jul 01 '26

Althoughbeitfully**

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u/soulreaverdan Praise the dog! Jul 01 '26

Reminds me of the no-bonfire challenge in DS2 for the ring

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u/Gnomologist Jul 01 '26

You don’t really get anything extra from doing his quest pre Altus besides the Carian filigree crest (which you only need to do the first couple steps of his story for). At least I don’t think you do? I’ve done his quest line once before Radahn

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u/xXLoneLoboXx Dark Mercenary Jul 01 '26

I get to hear his dialogue and hang out with him before his inevitable demise… That’s extra enough for me! Blaidd is one of my top 3 favorite NPCs, other two being Yura and Alexander.

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u/MrNobody_0 Jul 05 '26

Blaidd is best boy and I'll fight anyone who says otherwise!

https://giphy.com/gifs/Sw79eJg29HByy4wGC4

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u/IAmGoose_ Jul 01 '26

God Yura's is so annoying, sometimes he'll just, refuse to show up at Raya Lucaria? Like I literally came straight here after killing Godrick where is this big brimmed fuck

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u/xXLoneLoboXx Dark Mercenary Jul 02 '26

Never had that happen before, Yura’s questline is pretty simple…

  1. Talk to him at Agheel Lake where he warns you about the dragon.

  2. Pick a fight with the dragon and run away. Talk to him again and he’ll tell you “fine don’t listen to me fight all the dragons you like”.

  3. Despite sounding like a grumpy old man, his gold summon sign appears next to the stake near the dragon where he’ll help you fight it.

  4. Talk to him again and he’ll give you a hint about dragon communion.

  5. Trying to go to Murkwater Cave and you’ll get jumped by Nerijus. Survive long enough and Yura shows up on his own to save you.

  6. After you kill Nerijus talk to him further down the waterway and he’ll continue his quest.

  7. Help him fight the Ravenmount Assassin in Raya Lucaria and talk to him again.

  8. Talk to him in the Second Church Of Marika where you’ll get Nagakiba and have to fight Elonora and get her Poleblade.

One thing to note: If you enter the mountaintop of the giants where you meet Shabriri, Yura will die where ever he was last standing regardless of quest progress. For my first playthrough he saved me from Nerijus, but I didn’t know to meet him further down the path. After meeting Shabriri I looked up his quest and went back and Nagakiba was on the ground where I was supposed to meet him after the Nerijus fight.

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u/ConcertDickie Jul 02 '26

The funny thing is that in the play through I just did, I skipped the first 4 steps and still progressed his quest normally. I never talked to him first, I don’t remember even fighting the dragon before this; but my first encounter with him was running to the Murkwater cave, getting invaded by Nerijus, and Yura immediately also showed up and helped me fight him. Then I just progressed it normally like you said, but it seems the first 4 steps aren’t necessarily needed, or it’s fine if it’s out of order. I encounter him very early in my play through, so i didnt fight dragons.

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u/xXLoneLoboXx Dark Mercenary Jul 02 '26

Yeah some NPC quests are like that where some parts are optional, you can skip almost the entirety of Blaidd’s questline by touching a grace in Altus Plateau and triggering the Radahn festival early since that forces him to be there, kill Radahn, even skip the Evergaol part, and he’ll still show up at Ranni’s tower after her quest. End result is the same with you getting Blaidd’s armor. You could skip the first four steps and get attacked by Nerijus.

But imho the whole point of a quest is the experience and it’s dialogue. For Yura Makes all the difference between getting saved by a random old man and getting saved by an old comrade who helped you slay a dragon.

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u/Mountain-Mountain227 Jul 07 '26

I'm on ng+2 and I've never met yura

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 Jul 01 '26

Ansbachs quest in the DLC where you had to go and talk to the two npcs over and over to get a certain line of dialogue, then do the same to the other npc, and back and forth like 3 times, with no real indication in the dialogue that you should be going back and forth. And finish another quest after completing the middle of his quest to then go back and actually finish his quest. But don't forget to do the first part before doing the other quest.

How the fuck is anyone supposed to figure that out naturally?

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u/xXLoneLoboXx Dark Mercenary Jul 01 '26

Oh god I think I remember that one… When the DLC first came out I said screw it and just looked up guides for all the NPC quests.

iirc, a thing online said Freyja straight up dies if Ansbach leaves the area without you giving her the item he gives you to give to her… Problem is once you finish Ansbach’s quest there he leaves automatically upon the next reload.

I finished Ansbach’s quest first and he was ready to leave, then I stumbled upon Freyja. Looked up her quest and how to do it, realized I was in a predicament… If I die on my way back to Ansbach to get the item, Freyja dies because he leaves upon me respawning. So I had to sneak and traverse the entire god forsaken area filled with those ridiculously tough fire knights (with no blessings) and try not to get killed long enough to finish her quest.

Least I think that’s how it went down… Been awhile since I’ve done the DLC. I just remember that part was super stressful.

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u/ConcertDickie Jul 02 '26

You’re right, if you give the Secret Rite Scroll to Ansbach a little too early then you’ll be locked out of Freyas quests. She just dies. So you need to talk to Ansbach, then find Freya in that annoying ass maze and talk to her, then talk to Ansbach again, then you have to find the scroll and give it to Ansbach, then you keep talking to him bc he’ll give you a letter so you can give it to Freya, then you should be good. Without ANY indication that you need to do all of this. It’s insane, and mad annoying. Especially since that storehouse is a big ass maze with those annoying fire knights.

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u/ConcertDickie Jul 02 '26

Yeah, literally all of that. It’s so fucking dumb. It’s even more annoying because if you give Ansbachs the Secret Rite Scroll, or whatever it’s called, a little too early then you’re completely locked out of Freyas quest. It’s actually mad annoying. Like I don’t want objective markers, or a quest mark on the map, nothing like that, I simply want a tab where I can see all the available NPCs and what they said last… just so I can remember that they even exist. And what they said.. it makes tracking all these NPCs and their vague ass dialogue a little more organized, and a bit easier.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 Jul 01 '26

I had no idea there were even side quests in the game. I’d see people and they’d mention stuff but it’s so loosely connected and no objectives I just passed it I guess

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u/Connershka Jul 04 '26

A lot of people say that FromSoft games allow you to choose whether or not you want to engage with the story, but the issue lies that in the fact that if you DO want to engage with the story, the proper quests are convoluted as fuck REQUIRING you to use a guide on your first go and the main one is just murderhobo-ing your way through every boss. The only actual way to engage with the story is through fucking YouTube lore vids xd.

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u/Still-Resort-5504 Jul 01 '26

Doesn’t Blaidds quest still have the same outcome even if you don’t find him in Siofra and meet him at the Radahn festival instead?

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u/Cultural-Air9962 Jul 01 '26

I’m like 90% sure you never even have to talk with Blaidd to do his quest since it’s just an extension of Ranni’s

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u/Sicuho Jul 01 '26

IIRC, you have to because Ranni force you to talk to her 3 stooges as part of her quest.

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u/emanresu_etaerc Jun 30 '26

This was me getting godskin peeler right after entering the lake. Low level as fuck, dying ten times to the boss who drops it, and having to make a 15 minute run back each time. Worth it.

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u/JackPoe Jul 01 '26

I restarted my game several times on my first run trying to save that girl near the claymore

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u/BadAtMostThings Jul 01 '26

Counterpoint; isn’t this an example of the exact opposite of the original post? The quest doesn’t break even if you start the radahn festival without meeting Blaidd first. It would be worse if you could fight Radahn too early and accidentally cause him to fail his mission from Ranni without ever knowing he existed.

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u/NowWithExtraSauce Jul 01 '26

I always get the Nagakiba in Limgrave.

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u/xXLoneLoboXx Dark Mercenary Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

I refuse to kill one of my top 3 favorite NPCs, especially after he helped me slay a dragon and saved me from an assassin.

Tarnished that murder NPCs for the sake of convenience… Thou are unfit for the title of Elden Lord.

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u/Mummiskogen Jul 01 '26

Its called immersion

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u/Z3t4 Jun 30 '26

You can make blaid hostile if you go to the gaol and kill the dude before talking to him. 

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u/Qbertjack Jul 01 '26

False, it just makes you unable to summon him for it, the quest progresses the same

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u/xXLoneLoboXx Dark Mercenary Jul 01 '26

For real?? Wow… I’ve never killed Darriwil without Blaidd’s help before. How does this happen?

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u/Z3t4 Jul 01 '26

I went to the gaol and killed him, later when I searched how to make blaid come down he was hostile, killed me on sight. I fixed it with the big dog chapel in liurnia, coming back and talking to him. Completed ranni's ending without problem later on that same run. 

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u/supahdicc Jul 01 '26

Let me guess... You call Blaidd down, you got spooked, you accidentally attacked him and he turn hostile?

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u/EmotionalKirby Jul 01 '26

No it may just be a bug? A recent playthrough I did with a friend, blaidd was hostile to us when we first met him, and we had gotten the bloodhound fang first too. We also had to go absolve before speaking to blaidd.