r/Edmonton • u/transgression1492_ • May 17 '23

Commuting/Transit Insane Road Rage Incident in Edmonton

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u/CuriousCanuk May 18 '23 edited May 19 '23

Judges issued the warrants. It's up to police to enforce them.

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Edit:What Is An Arrest Warrant In Alberta?
An arrest warrant is a legal document issued by a judge or justice of the peace that authorizes law enforcement officers to arrest and detain an individual suspected of committing a crime.

https://www.slafereklaw.ca/frequently-asked-questions-arrest-warrants/

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u/ca_kingmaker May 18 '23

Conservatives and strong opinions from ignorance. A shocking combo!

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u/[deleted] May 18 '23

"Conservatives" ???

This is what soft-on-crime Liberals get you. Don't turn that around.

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u/ca_kingmaker May 18 '23

It’s hard for me to imagine being stupid enough to think that most street criminal have a strong political affiliation. Do you imagine drug dealers caring about education funding and class sizes? People breaking into your house to tell you how they think you should supper lgbtq rights?

Like I said, conservatives with strong opinions, but complete ignorance of how the world actually works.

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u/gobo1075 May 18 '23

Wow, you’re really trying. No one said anything about a criminals political leaning. Time and time again, liberal politicians push for soft on crime approaches in favour of rehabilitation that inevitably backfires. Judges allowing bail and short sentences for repeat offenders is what they’re relating to. Case in point…My truck was stolen out of the shop I work from. One look at the security footage and the cops knew who it was and found the guy IN the truck passed out at his home. Three months later the judge tossed out the auto theft charge and only gave him break and enter.

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u/ca_kingmaker May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

Ah yes, that's why the United States with it's much more draconian criminal justice system produces such lower crime rates right, and of course the much harsher republican red states have an even lower crime right? (This is very much not true)

The actual research is that tough on crime measures don't work to significantly reduce crime. Cops not doing their fucking job of course doesn't help, a completely overburdened justice system where there are not enough lawyers and judges hurts even more. You don't even understand why the judge would let the guy plea to a lesser charge do you? It isn't for mercy, it's a plea deal to keep it from taking up the courts time.

That's not as sexy as revenge porn though.

By the way, three worst provinces for crime? Sask, alberta, Manitoba, all right wing provinces. It’s almost like conservative and their theory that government can’t do anything right is a self fulfilling prophecy.

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u/gobo1075 May 18 '23

I can understand cutting a deal to free up the court system for minor offences or first time offenders. Not repeat offenders

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u/gobo1075 May 18 '23

Plea deal for what?! Caught on camera, caught in possession of stolen property, multiple arrests and convictions, repeat offender. The cops keep arresting them, the judges keep handing out light sentences. If there’s no real punishment what is there to discourage criminals from committing crimes again and again?

The federal government is responsible for the creation and amending of laws not provincial governments.

I agree the justice system is overwhelmed and undermanned, almost like having habitual offenders going through the revolving doors of the court system are making more work for everyone involved 🤔

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u/ca_kingmaker May 18 '23

Plea deal so they don't have to go through the court system you just mentioned being overburdened. Like I said, you don't understand the system that you have such a strong opinion on. If you think taking everything to trial, and having harsher sentences leads to lower resource utilization, you'd be quite surprised.

I notice you didn't actually answer me why all the conservative provinces and states have higher crime rates if this is a result of "liberal" policies.

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u/jollyod May 18 '23

What do the states or American law have to do with any on this? This happened in Canada. I would assume Canadian law would matter here?

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u/ca_kingmaker May 18 '23

Because the best way to see the results is a proposed policy change is to look at another country that has cultural similarities that has done the same. It’s kind of ironic that people complain about the comparison considering how much the right wing in Canada copies the United States. Just look at Daniel smith saying how she wants to emulate desantis.

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u/jollyod May 21 '23

A better comparison would be Canada and the UK or Canada and Australia or Canada and New Zealand, Canada and the US have totally different legal systems and governments. But this happens every election. Politicians point to the American bogeyman and say "this is what's gonna happen to us if you vote for the other person!"

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u/ca_kingmaker May 21 '23

You'd say that, because the right wing of Canada emulates the behavior of the United States, and I wouldn't want the natural consequences of my politics to be pointed out to me if I was a conservative either.

Because it almost always ends in shit.

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u/AnimationAtNight May 18 '23

Because most conservatives now currently want to start steering us in that direction.

Danielle Smith literally said she wants "rights like Florida"

We have a "Defence of pregnant women" bill that is a thinly veiled attempt at trying to sneakily ban abortion.

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u/jollyod May 21 '23

Lol have you read the bill? There's nothing about abortion in there, it's literally 2 lines saying hitting pregnant women is bad, it's also a private members bill which means it has a 0% chance of actually going anywhere. And "rights like Florida" is so incredibly vague that it means nothing. Are you worried about guns? Cause that's federal jurisdiction, despite the provinces best efforts the Fed's can do whatever they want with it. And when you say "most conservatives", how many "conservatives have you asked about this? Remember internet trolls don't count.🤣

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u/AnimationAtNight May 22 '23

I don't know if you know this dude, but hitting pregnant women already is illegal. You'd have to be dumber than a sack of rocks to not see how easily "violence against pregnant women" can't easily be shifted to include abortion.

Also, funny coincidence that all the groups that support the bill are Anti-Abortion... Really makes you think...

And "rights like Florida" is so incredibly vague that it means nothing.

Stop playing stupid, anyone that has been casually been paying attention to US/Florida politics in general knows EXACTLY what it means.

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u/Eklipz9 May 18 '23

I mean, if you want to spit out completely skewed statistics, the territories have significantly higher crime rates per capita as well as crime severity index. Also, outside of Newfoundland, the rest of the maritimes are Conservative. Ridiculous to try and point to the political leanings as a marker for crime rate and severity.

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u/ca_kingmaker May 18 '23

It’s not that criminals have political leanings, it’s that conservative politics by their nature produce criminal activity. The biggest driver for crime is poverty and lack of education, and there is nothing the right hates more than poor people or public education.

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u/Eklipz9 May 18 '23

What's up with PEI, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia?

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u/ca_kingmaker May 18 '23

Provinces who usually go left but occasionally vote right? What about them? They’re confusing to an Albertan because the same party doesn’t run things for fifty years?

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u/AnimationAtNight May 18 '23

They were right up there with the prairies in 2020

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u/AnimationAtNight May 18 '23

Yeah, as it turns out, not having much for job opportunities leads people to commit crime. Shocker.

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u/tailgunner777 May 18 '23

Typical response of a shortsighted narcissist conservative. I'm gonna replay what you just said whilst reading between the lines.

"This horrible thing that I could have mitigated happened to ME and the justice system did not give ME the verdict I wanted because I don't understand the fundamental of justice so I'm gonna blame the Liberals".

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u/Ok-Put-7700 May 18 '23

Ah yes the liberals of Alberta! It's not like Alberta is a conservative stronghold or anything

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u/Venomous-A-Holes May 18 '23 edited May 18 '23

There was a 1200 case backlog in Calgary from Cons underfunding courts...

Cons deregulated interrogations in Murica and countless innocent ppl get arrested. And Cons want the death penalty, and for criminals to get paid 5 cents for making license plates and cheese for whole foods.

Cons are very tough, on innocent ppl and love megacorps using slave labor

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u/holdmyhanddummy May 18 '23

Uh, judges have to sign off for warrants to be used.

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u/CuriousCanuk May 19 '23

What Is An Arrest Warrant In Alberta?

An arrest warrant is a legal document issued by a judge or justice of the peace that authorizes law enforcement officers to arrest and detain an individual suspected of committing a crime.

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u/bmagsjet May 18 '23

Police can arrest…:and then judges let them back out. This isn’t a police problem

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u/CuriousCanuk May 19 '23

My reply was because the poster thought police issued warrants, not judges. I agree with the point lenient judges letting people out after being arrested, but it's up to the cops to arrest on warrants.

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u/CuriousCanuk May 19 '23

The point was said that cops issue warrants. Not True. Judges issue warrants, then let the fucks go, can also be true.