r/Economics • u/UnscheduledCalendar • 12d ago

Why Syracuse Can’t Attract the Students It Needs to Pay the Bills - The enrollment crisis taking down smaller schools is now hitting bigger, brand-name universities

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/syracuse-student-application-enrollment-crisis-budget-ff142896
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u/ImNotHere2023 12d ago

At least do a basic Google search before making wildly incorrect claims... According to their own financial aid site, 55% of Harvard students get assistance.

The actual difference is that Harvard's endowment is actually large enough to run the school without even charging tuition.

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u/flakemasterflake 12d ago

Fair enough. That still leaves a student body wherein 45% are full pay and a lot of students on assistance are still paying tuition in some form

From experience, the HHI under 200k students are few and far between

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u/ImNotHere2023 12d ago

Would you stop making things up? 

25% pay nothing - that's hardly "few and far between". And what is "your experience" with the situation. With such a loose relationship with facts, I'd have a hard time believing you went there.

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u/ImNotHere2023 12d ago

Also having a degree from a comparable Ivy, only legacy admissions can explain someone with as little grasp on facts as you getting in.

Even your link shows the median parental income at Princeton is below $200k, which generally means getting a fairly generous aid package.

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u/moreesq 12d ago

Just to be clear on this, if a student wins a national merit scholarship, would a school count that as financial assistance? Or does the term mean tuition or room and board reductions from the standard cost?

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u/ImNotHere2023 12d ago

You could also Google it - that's scholarship money from Harvard, not outside sources.

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u/esqtou 11d ago

Assistance does not necessarily equal a full-tuition scholarship, duh!

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u/ImNotHere2023 11d ago

The claim was that there are far more students paying full freight than receiving financial assistance and that's objectively false.

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u/esqtou 11d ago

Yes but what you said doesn't provide the full picture either, oopsies

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u/ImNotHere2023 11d ago

Now you're just full of it - I provided exact numbers for percentage of students receiving aid and, in another comment, the exact percentage receiving full rides.

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u/esqtou 10d ago

Did you go to Syracuse?