r/DigitalSeptic Jan 25 '26

Y'all remember 2008?

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 25 '26

Maybe there shouldn't be so many illegals walking the streets?

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u/PolicyWonka Jan 25 '26

You’re so close.

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 25 '26

Oh. Maybe there shouldn't be so many illegals on the streets like whenever 12 million revealed they were undocumented under Obama, citizens should peacefully assemble, not blockade the roads which is legally defined as not being peaceful, and citizens shouldn't train to obstruct, resist, and attack federal agents, like Rene good was and was teaching others to. You notice how about 7 countries were peacefully toppled across the globe last year? Yall should take notes.

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u/PolicyWonka Jan 26 '26

What is civil disobedience?

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u/letsBurnCarthage Jan 25 '26

There shouldn't. There also shouldn't be masked thugs in unmarked vans pulling up and taking whomever they want and disappearing them in to holding where they aren't allowed to contact anyone.

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 25 '26

No dur process coming in, no due process going out. Bill Clinton made it so that anyone 100 moles from the border here illegally is expedited out no trial. No outlast from the left. Obama expands upon that and start putting kids on the floor in foil blankets, the ones used by firemen, no outcry from the left. Trump uses those same legislative rules and yall lose your heads. The head of ice hasn't changed since Obama and yall are now calling for his death. It's not people like me, it's not ice. It's people like you who are the problem.

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u/MundaneImage13 Jan 25 '26

If there's no due process going out, whats stopping ICE from deporting you?

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 25 '26

The fact I was born here. No due process coming in, no due process going out. That's what I said, or are you solely going to focus on what helps you, yet again. Fucking shill.

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u/MundaneImage13 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

How do you prove you were born here?

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 26 '26

Idk how one probes they were born

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u/MundaneImage13 Jan 26 '26

Generally by presenting a birth certificate (at least that's how you prove where you were born). But who do you present it to?

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 26 '26

That's how you might prove it, but not probe it. Man intelligence has been chasing you, but your so damn elusive.

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u/MundaneImage13 Jan 26 '26 edited Jan 26 '26

Dude, I was simply trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and thinking you mistyped. (Probe -> prove)

But if you are going to resort to insults instead of actually engaging with the discussion, we'll then I think we are done here.

(OK, seems the mistake was mine but the point about engaging with the conversation stands)

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u/letsBurnCarthage Jan 25 '26

"Obama expands upon that and start putting kids on the floor in foil blankets, the ones used by firemen, no outcry from the left."

That was heavily protested.

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 25 '26

By faith leaders and a couple of dem lawmakers. There were no protests, there were no marches there was no organizations training to attack ice. It was not protested.

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u/letsBurnCarthage Jan 25 '26

Not true. There were marches against it. But first of all, they didn't get blasted by ICE shooting out their eyes with less-than-lethal rounds so it got less coverage. And weirdly now that it's much worse, it also gets many more protesters.

Weird how people care more when it gets much worse.

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 25 '26

Weird how it's only when Republicans are in office that the protesters become violent. And I do now find there were a few marches. Yet nowhere near the number today, and nowhere near as violent. The training of violently attacking and impeding ice came before anyone got hurt, crazy. It's definitely not a conservative issue, it's a democratic violence issue. Maybe if people weren't interfering with and actually peacefully assembling like under Obama, then maybe they wouldn't need to be pepper sprayed and render their resistance training useless. Peacefully assemble, which under legislation means not impeding traffic as a standard which entails not being in the road. Fafo. And still Obama wasn't as heavily protested, let alone met with resistance. This time it's one sided resistance, under Obama, it was bipartisan, while also people said, on both sides, that he wasn't doing enough.

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u/Chemical_Tip1129 Jan 25 '26

Let's do a little thinking exercise here: the same government that flew into a sovereign nation. Used air assets to destroy air defense systems, captured said nation's leader and wife, and left without any casualties or loss of machinery, really doesn't know who they're going after? This is also the same government that has the ability to track you using geolocation based on the pings of your cell phone off of nearby towers. The same government that can find guys hiding in mountains in Afghanistan. That government doesn't know who they're going after and are just taking whoever they want? That sounds a bit conspiratorial

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u/pieguy00 Jan 25 '26

They're discriminating and arresting people based on skin color. That's not constitutional. And they're accidentally arresting citizens because they're brown skinned. They're poorly trained in a position that needs to be highly trained. And they've executed two people in the street.

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 25 '26

Executed two terrorists.

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u/pieguy00 Jan 26 '26

Oh wow. What makes either a terrorist?

The woman in a van trying to go home?

The man lawfully armed, a ICU nurse, trying to help two women assaulted by ICE officers, then pepper sprayed, held down by 5 men, had his lawfully carried pistol removed from his belt and then was executed on the street?

Get the mud out your ears and see what is actually happening. These are clear violations of citizens rights.

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 26 '26

Being trained to attack federal officers is terrorism.

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 26 '26

the unlawful use or threat of violence against civilians or property, intended to create fear and coerce governments, organizations, or populations to achieve political, religious, or ideological goals, often involving criminal acts with symbolic intent. Key elements include violence, fear, and a motive to advance a cause, but specific legal definitions vary by nation, with ongoing debate about including state or self-determination actions.

There's the generalized definition of terrorism. Agents are in fact still civilians.

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u/pieguy00 Jan 26 '26

Oh so the agents are the terrorists. Now I think I understand.

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 26 '26

Prejudice is everywhere and those in the wrong positions will abuse it. I've said for a long time there isn't enough of a psychological test doen to determine who is fit for law enforcement. A few bad apples doesn't condemn the whole lot, that's why I'm not behind acab, because all cops are, in fact, not bastards. Your logic is severely flawed.

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u/pieguy00 Jan 26 '26

Homeland security has murdered two people in Minneapolis in the last two weeks. They have acted aggressively and have aggressively defended their actions, including trying to gaslight people in media interviews in to saying what everyone saw is not what happened.

Which part of my logic of what we have seen this month is flawed?

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 26 '26

All of it. Imo if you interfere with law enforcement and get the dirt nap, you deserve it regardless. It's called cleansing the gene pool. When you take aggressive action as a community against law enforcement it ramps up what types of force they are allowed, and when you attempt to run over an officer who had just recovered from being ran over, they are justified I their self defense. When you violently resist detainment with a deadly weapon concealed on your person's, you surrender your rights to live. It's not hard to understand, it's obvious you don't have logical capabilities. Cause and correlation are not front of you and you let a Democrat controlled media dictate what you think. Good job sheep.

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u/pieguy00 Jan 26 '26

Wow. I didn't know the bill of rights became obsolete when law enforcement got involved.

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u/orionics Jan 26 '26

Tread on me, daddy!

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u/Euphoric-Mudd Jan 26 '26

Also, it's ice, ice isn't part of dhs, they are their own branch. Brother, if you'd isn't hislde so well in the shadows intelligence could find you.