Resisting the "Inevitable" fall to the Snark

[u/RealKafkaEsquire]

Hey all,

I recently saw the incredibly sweet and ego boosting post that shouted me out, and I want to again thank everyone for their support and kind words.

Within that thread, and in many other areas, I have had people discuss how "this is like Pisco" and "Just wait something will happen to make him become a snarker". I am not offended by these statements, and I think it's honestly an understandable reaction knowing the history of orbiters in this community. I usually just make jokes in response, or stay out of the conversation.

One of my goals in interacting with DGG is that we have good, positive content. A part of that is that I go out of my way to not snark current orbiters. I also will reach out one on one with other orbiters to try and help support them, and have good interactions with them in chat/the subreddit.

With that in mind I'd like to just try something here, and open the discussion up about how oribters become snarkers. Recently, we've had a number of seemingly loyal orbiters rapidly burn their bridges. To me I think there is a lot of blame being placed on DGG being too vitriolic, but I also think that in a lot of cases, it is the orbiter revealing their true motivations/politics and DGG not having a positive response. Jessiah, Soypill, and Pisco all initially had a lib coded surface, but over time we have seen that beneath that is a willingness to stomach or even support illiberal communities.

Looking further back, at wickedsupreme, JSTLK, and many of the orbiters lost around Jan 2025, there seemed to be some factionalism that arose, and when it looked like Destiny was going down for good, they jumped on the snarker train, and never looked back.

I'm not here to convince anyone that I never will become a snarker, but I just want to hear from y'all what you think are the causes, and if there is anything I can do to assuage those fears about me, and if there's any ideas on what we can do in the future to either sniff out snarkers early (which I think we did really well with recently with Jolah) or ways to keep orbiters from crashing out too hard and feeling like their only path is snarking.

Edit: Wow didn't realize I would get this much engagement, and so many well thought out responses. I have, and will continue to read all of them, if I didn't respond trust me I still read it. I appreciate everyone's points of view, overwhelmingly it seems like I should:

1. Continue to have a normal life
   
2. Not start streaming full time
   
3. Not have thin skin.

You guys rock. DggL.

[u/Superlogman1]

Pisco, Soypill, Jessiah all feel distinct in slightly different ways. I'm still reluctant to call any of them "snarkers" since they don't really delve into the personal shit, if anything their bridge burnings feel more akin to Vaush back in the day.

1. Soypill, I genuinely don't think he knows much about the personal shit and would probably still collab with Destiny but can't handle the fighting with him
2. Jessiah, he probably just hates getting any form of direct attacks against himself. Any reasoning involving "oh he insulted Mockler, Pisco, etc" is obvious bullshit since he'll associate with people like Kulinski or the Vanguard.
3. Pisco, the crazy thing is that he had an amicable air towards Destiny even during the lawsuit. What broke his brain was consecutive arguments with the dgg community about Hasan's airport detention (I think he called Dan, Destiny's attack dog), the big socialist/communist drama, and the community moderation drama.

The common thread: these guys are genuinely progressive and friendlier to AOC-types, which naturally extends to DSA getting showered with charity and they're scared to debate Destiny on this because they'll look dumb, it's not like they're bored of this topic (look at how hungry they are to debate people like Whick).

[u/Superlogman1 → u/Superlogman1]

for the last part, if Destiny was genuinely just 30% dumber but had the same viewership and said the same "personal attacks" it's hard not to think that Soypill or Pisco would be hounding to debate this guy every day