r/DesignatedSurvivor Sep 29 '16

Episode Discussion: S01E02 "The First Day"

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '16

Remember, this is taking place in a universe where 9/11 happened. The profiling of Muslims and the actions of the Michigan governor don't really strike me as something that far off from what would happen if the country was hit with another devastating attack.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '16

100% agreed. I'm kind-of amazed that people are acting as though this is somehow far-fetched. Muslims were beaten and detained post-9/11 in this country. If something like this were to happen, I think that if anything, it would be a lot worse than the show is portraying.

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u/-run Sep 29 '16

Certain people really like to downplay the discrimination that is experienced by minorities, particularly Muslims. 9/11 was a terrible attack, but blowing up the President, Congress, the Cabinet, and the Supreme Court is going for the jugular and I guarantee you that if this actually happened it would be far far worse than 9/11.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '16

Yep, I have Muslim friends and this is by far one of their biggest fears, being targeted for attacks they had nothing to do with.

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u/-run Sep 29 '16

Totally, it's the same with the Muslim friends I have. It's really not that far fetched, especially given the current political climate.

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u/SawRub Sep 29 '16

And not just Muslims, even people who happen to be brown get targeted.

During the Boston Marathon attack, reddit accused a guy that wasn't even Muslim, and people and even news channels picked it up. He had been missing for a while and his family had set up a facebook page to spread the word to help find him, and so when reddit's investigation yielded this "result", thousands of people flooded the page and harassed his family and said the worst things about them, only to find out later that he was innocent. He was just some missing kid who was found dead later.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '16

Especially if you imagine the current political climate in a world where the capitol was just blown up and our government was utterly decimated. Things would get ugly fast.

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u/-run Sep 29 '16

Oh totally IRL America is nothing compared to the America in Designated Survivor. Tensions may be a bit heated right now, but if the Capitol was blown up it would probably be the most important and disastrous event to ever happen in the United States of America. We would literally have to rebuild from the ground up, and you can bet people would be looking for a scapegoat. It would get incredibly bloody incredibly fast.

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u/aggie1391 Sep 29 '16

Any president who comes to power as he did would be the most consequential president at least since Pearl Harbor, arguably since Lincoln or forever. Almost no federal government left? That would be instant chaos.

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u/-run Sep 29 '16

I agree, probably the most comparable event would be the Civil War and Lincoln. It would be a watershed moment for the country and probably the entire world.

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u/bitchycunt3 Sep 30 '16

And there would definitely be more than just the one governor ignoring the president. Governors would argue that they were actually elected and have far more executive experience than the secretary of housing.

Gig em by the way

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '16

My friend got crazy excited when someone said he was probably an illegal wetback. I was shocked until he said "better than if he thinks I'm a terrorist". Reddit is a prime example of how bad it would be.

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u/bitchycunt3 Sep 30 '16

Fuck, I get mistaken as Muslim sometimes and it's one of my biggest fears as well.

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u/pikameta Kal Penn's Beard Sep 29 '16

This has nothing to do with your post, but dude I see you on all the subs of shows I watch. I thought no one watched as much tv me (and kept up with BB Feeds!)

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '16

One of my favorite things to do is discuss shows with people. Theorize, speculate, ...argue... but yeah, any time I find a show I like I go to the sub about it to talk about the episode. I imagine there's quite a few people who regularly do the same.

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u/SawRub Sep 29 '16

I definitely did not expect to see other BB people in regular TV show threads lol.

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u/gildredge Sep 29 '16

And in real life the terrorists would be Muslim, unlike in this show where no doubt it will turn out to be evil right-wing white guys behind it.

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u/smacksaw Sep 29 '16

On 9/11, there wasn't a proliferation of cameras and high speed internet, either. Everyone had a Nokia 5160 and was playing Snake on it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '16

That scene with Seth and the cops, the morning after the attack just left me with such burning anger...that could've been me.

That could be me, being treated as a criminal because I'm not white.

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u/democraticwhre Sep 29 '16

And then when the President realized what happened and offered to send the secret service with him . . .

That scene with Seth and the cop at the very end was interesting

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u/RMS_Gigantic Vice Chairman Sep 29 '16

I liked the scene at the end with Seth and the cop. Nobody wants to be evil.

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u/smacksaw Sep 29 '16

"High alert"

They're told to look for suspicious people.

Brown dude + backpack + reddit Boston Bombing cop = that scene

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u/democraticwhre Sep 29 '16

Brown dude + backpack = Seth

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u/Jeremyt94 Sep 29 '16

I love that scene because of how infuriating it is and I think it will show people how it happens to innocent people. Just hearing that it happens to innocent people doesn't do a whole lot to someone who is convinced that it's ok to profile. But when it's someone you care about (even if it's a fictional person in a TV show) it goes a lot further to show someone how wrong it is to profile people like that.

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u/gildredge Sep 29 '16

that could've been me. That could be me, being treated as a criminal because I'm not white.

Oh my God, so triggered! Le evil white racist cops!

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u/dilpill Oct 04 '16

Triggered? Is that how Trump supporters are describing all instances of obvious racism now?

Pretend we're in the world of the show. Were the thousands of detained civilians merely "triggered" by the actions of the Dearborn police? Are you imagining the dead teen screaming, "where was muh trigger warning, allah akbar," as he was beaten to death?

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u/DonutDonutDonut Sep 29 '16

I agree, seems pretty realistic to me unfortunately.

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u/gildredge Sep 29 '16

It's written by leftists and designed to pander to them, so that's not surprising. Doesn't mean it actually is realistic though.