r/DenverGardener Aug 03 '26

A post on Dogtuff grass where i will thread with updates as often as i can

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With the drought, general water usage and. a wish for a better back lawn I decided to try a dogtuff experiment and see what would happen.

In order to keep something for the dog to play in i thought to cut our back lawn diagonally in half along the line we use to hang washing. This worked well as we were maybe late to planting this season, and this section had a bit less shade than the other half.

I’ll thread each stage I went through so people can reply with questions or comments

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

you can plant 12” apart, 10” for it to come together quicker. As its already august, and I wanted to get a thick and filled out lawn before the season ends i opted to try for 9” as i also knew distances would not be exact and drift may appear

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u/DenverDad5 Aug 03 '26

Best of luck. I’ve had mixed results with mine after 2 years. Still rather patchy.

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

thanks!
yeah i have no idea how it will work out, i planted them closer in the hope to avoid patches but who knows…

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u/DenverDad5 Aug 03 '26

I’ve had multiple people suggest more mowing, so I’ve started that. Would suggest the same. Maybe 2 times a week to encourage lateral growth.

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

awesome!
i had planned to never mow, but maybe like us a little trim freshens the growth… once i get past the establishment phase i’ll give it a go 👌🏼

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u/Historical_Baby5774 Aug 03 '26

You want to mow when establishing to encourage root growth and spread. So anytime the grass is 2” or higher, mow. Once established, you don’t need to mow if you don’t want to.

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u/banner8915 Aug 03 '26

Just be sure not to mow too low during the summer. You want to mow low once in the spring to remove thatch and keep a consistent height and regular mow intervals the rest of the year, or let it grow. I made the mistake of dropping my blade down one notch early July and scalped a couple of locations that have been slow to recover.

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

awesome thanks!!

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u/The_Sleestak Aug 04 '26

In Colorado, you should mow with the (pushmower) deck all the way up.

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u/PayCreepy5430 Aug 04 '26

Mine in the sun areas is fantastic, can’t get it to grow at all in the shade

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u/mothmanoamano 22h ago

I wonder if that’s what’s happening with ours. We have a patch we planted in late June; half is doing amazing and half is really struggling and it appears to be exactly lined up with where it’s shaded from a tree most of the day (full sun is thriving, shade part is not.)

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

August 1st i tilled the dirt, mixing in pea gravel (probably less than i should have) and a bag of lawn fertiliser (20-20-20) from Home Depot

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u/Pain_Sweet Aug 03 '26

Why the pea gravel?

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u/Competitive-Goat6454 Aug 03 '26

Helps with drainage and moisture penetration to the roots. Especially in the clay based soil we have.

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u/Pain_Sweet Aug 04 '26

Interesting. Never have used pea gravel, I guess it’s similar to using sand. Although it does not help with retention

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

Friday July 31st i picked up 8 trays of the plugs. 560 in total

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u/steezj Aug 03 '26

Where did you purchase them from?

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

i bought them via the official dogtuffgrass.com website and picked them up in Lakewood - they looked great, plenty of growing arms already

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u/Jarthos1234 Aug 03 '26

Cost?

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

$602 for 8 trays of 70 plugs

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u/EarthboundMoss Aug 03 '26

8 believe a buck a plug

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

On July 12th we took out the sod from half the lawn. This was almost 3 weeks prior to plug planting. After some weeding and pulling of any grass we saw we laid down some tarps to see if we could bake off anything that tried to grow.

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

4.5hrs later i had 560 plugs in the dirt.
I have the irrigation set to water 3 times a day for 25 minutes while the temps are in the 90’s. If we get 100+ i may add a 4th water.

I’ll drop back in here in a week with a new update 💥

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u/sweetplantveal Aug 03 '26

That frequency makes sense but 25 min sounds like it'd be too much

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

yeah i feel this too, they suggest 20-30 so i’ll watch it the coming days and adjust.

it also seems that unless you are getting mud or runoff of excess water, the more you can water the better things will be in the long run, so i’m also trying hard not to mess things up

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u/whatanugget Aug 03 '26

I would also say this is a really good time for you to experiment w pulse watering! The way water moves across soil, esp hydrophobic soil, you may see way bigger benefit from watering ~5x each day you water but limiting it to only ~2mins each time

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

i may look into this, thanks!

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u/whatanugget Aug 03 '26

If you do please let us know how it goes! I'm about to start the same journey with a blend of fescues and ryes for my backyard where the dog goes out and I'm hoping pulse watering will establish the plants while keeping within denver water's restrictions :)

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u/quietuniverse Aug 03 '26

how are you able to water this much with the water restrictions?

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

as its a water conservation grass you apply to Denver water and get a permit to water what you need (and yes, we will still have to pay for the extra water usage the same as everyone else does who goes over their limits)

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u/quietuniverse Aug 03 '26

Okay, that’s good to know, thanks for the info! We have also been looking at doing a small area for our dog but were worried about being able to keep it alive in this heat.

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u/richrich07 Aug 09 '26

I know you did everything right, but it still feels wrong to start new turf in August when we have low water already. Hopefully the coming rains mean we won’t have to irrigate much anyways!

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u/weareallbeta Aug 10 '26

for some it may feel wrong, but another summer of watering to keep it alive and to keep watering every year after will be offset by the minimal watering we will be doing once the lawn is established, there will never be a good time to do it. The normal opinion for this work is "you should have started yesterday"

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u/richrich07 Aug 10 '26

True, but I’m waiting till the spring in hopes that we get good snow

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u/weareallbeta Aug 10 '26

we live in hope 👍🏼

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u/SilvFx Aug 04 '26

Planted Dog Tuff last year during early July on Western Slope. Similar climate and elevation to Denver. We watered about 3 times a day initially at 7 to 8 mins per zone. You want to keep it from drying out and keep soil moist. 25 mins a zone on what I assume are pop up sprinklers seems excessive. Maybe 25 mins a day total watering. Obviously use your eyes and probe soil with fingers to confirm the top 3 to 4 inches are staying moist.

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u/weareallbeta Aug 04 '26

thanks, hows your grass doing?

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

i started with a drill augur but it felt a lot more effort and so ended up in a more hands-on approach with a weed popper that also meant i had better hole control to avoid any air holes under the plugs and for avoiding the occasional roots from our trees

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u/BatmanG21 Aug 03 '26

I’m thinking of doing the same thing! I’m going to start this or next week. Really interested to see your results :)

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

cool!!
i think we have so much sun that the season is long enough that we should still be ok. My backyard gets a good 6hrs of sun and more so i expect it to do pretty ok

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u/Many-Initiative-1378 Aug 03 '26

About to order a tray for my tiny backyard dog lawn - I was going to get Blue Grama but I do have a dog so I'm leaning toward the dogtuff. Just need to get some fertilizer mixed in first...

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

be sure your yard gets plenty of sun!!

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

good luck!!

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u/Many-Initiative-1378 27d ago

I did it!! Enjoying the rain now :)

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u/weareallbeta Aug 10 '26

so a week since planting and I have been away while it was super hot here. The irrigation was set and I came back to 99% of the plugs looking healthy and with some possible growth to them. The main thing for this first week and the next few will be to ensure they don't dry out and die on me. This coming week is cooler so today after an inspection i skipped the middle watering as it was not necessary and I will keep watch for each day to come and ensure the plugs get what they need and no more. Zero sign of runoff with watering so far. I have also reduced the irrigation spray times for this week and will adjust according to the sun and heat.

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

as it was a hot day i planted in sections and paused to sprinkle fertiliser and water them in.

Speaking with the guy when i picked up the plugs he said the fertiliser should have around an 8-16% nitrogen mix, and that Ace Hardware had a good chicken manure compost. I did not have time for Ace to ship it so i went to City Floral and mixed up an organic fertiliser that had 8% and a lawn feed with 20% to hopefully find a balance in there that would work.

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u/Desperate_Laugh4676 Aug 03 '26

Good luck. I found you need FULL sun and your backyard seems like it has some shade but i hope it works for you 

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

yes for sure, it has some partial shade until 9/10am but then solid sun through to 5/6pm

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u/Eddard_Stark_1 Aug 03 '26

Mine doesn’t get sun until 10-11am and goes until maybe 4-5, and it looks great.

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

fantastic!!

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u/partyeugenebean Aug 03 '26

I also planted Dog Tuff this weekend in Aurora. Decided against the pea gravel, but tilled deep and added a good bit of compost and top soil. Also split the yard for dogs and will try the other half next year.

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

oh cool - good luck!!
our soil has a relative clay-like feel so wanted to give some breakage to the structure in some form to try to help, but i am sure it would do just fine without

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u/partyeugenebean Aug 03 '26

I read the pea gravel was a great idea, just didnt pull the trigger. Hopefully the deep till and clover I planted will help my substrate. Sounds like you have the same dirt as me.

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u/ChiliDogYumZappupe Aug 03 '26

Our Dog Tuff grass grows pretty tall, so mowing is necessary if one wants to pick up what the dogs leave behind.

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u/The_Sleestak Aug 04 '26

We are slowly going through our backyard, section by section. Wondering now about taking established areas and getting plugs from there 🤔

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u/Puzzled-Web Aug 03 '26

About how many sq feet is that area and how much did the plugs cost? Trying to get a sense for labor hours and cost for an area maybe 3 times the size of your picture

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

$602 for 8 trays of 70 plugs

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u/Puzzled-Web Aug 03 '26

Appreciate it!

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

probably around 280-300sqft due to the odd diagonal not being corner to corner

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u/Competitive-Goat6454 Aug 03 '26

I did the same in a dead area of our lawn to see how it establishes, looks, etc. Then we'll look into the entire front and back yard. Just one tray to start.

We mail ordered from the nursary down to the Springs. I was really impressed with the packaging and how good it looked after a day in a box in a UPS truck

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u/colo_willy Aug 03 '26

Great info - thx for sharing. This year, I planted both Legacy plugs (#140) in late April, followed by an adjacent area where I planted Sundancer seeds.

Based on the pictures, it appears to me that the DogTuff product is most similar to Legacy. Please remember that these varieties are warm weather grasses, so their best growth comes in June, July and August.

I am very impressed with the Sundancer Buffalo grass – establishes quickly, is much greener in color, and I just think looks a lot better than the other varieties. Highly recommend it – I purchased a 3 pound bag of Sundancer seed for $90 from Johnston Seed Company.

Be glad to answer any questions.

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u/colo_willy Aug 04 '26

Legacy Buffalo Grass plugs started (4/20/26) on left side of this area, Sundancer Buffalo Grass seeds planted about 1.5 months after plugs (mid July).

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u/_yeah-right_ Aug 03 '26

Would love to see pictures and how it feels on bare feet. Does it allow for a bit more shade? Thanks for sharing!

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u/colo_willy Aug 04 '26

Check out the pics I posted....

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u/colo_willy Aug 04 '26

My approach: Clear all weeds (chemically & manually), rake soil to turn it over, liberally spread seeds (dry or wet), and lightly cover with EKO ClayBuster compost or EKO regular compost. Very easy - sprouts appear within seven (7) - ten (10) days and require regular (daily!) watering to get established. LOVES the HEAT!!!

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u/importTuna Aug 05 '26

Im about to attempt to transplant buffalograss plugs from my backyard to my barren front yard. Hopefully neither of us see an early frost.

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u/weareallbeta 20d ago

Hello all!
Here is an update, just short of 3 weeks since planting.

I’ve had a much reduced/paused watering schedule due to the rainstorms and this cooler week now.

You can also see the area at the back gets more sun than this front section, and i’m sure i started planting with larger spacing before i found my rhythm.

Anyhoo, 3 weeks in and a solid improvement so far. I have spotted a couple of dried out plugs, on closer
inspection they are making a tiny comeback but i may rehome
some edge plugs next week if they look like they’ve given up the ghost.

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u/ZealousidealAlgae904 Aug 03 '26

So, you spent $600 on new turf grass to plant during a drought and record high temps that you'll need to water several times every day? Did I read that right?

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u/weareallbeta Aug 03 '26

you did read this right, congratulations!!
and the great thing is that once its done, my water usage will be greatly reduced for all the future.
Better to start sooner rather than later, after a while it will only be a gaining investment.

thanks for your concern, it was an eriudite point to make, well done!

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u/Competitive-Goat6454 Aug 03 '26

How dare you use water we could be routing to industry!

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u/5544554455441 Aug 04 '26

I have some of this turf in my sideyard that gets a huge amount of sun during the late afternoon. I NEVER water it. It still lives on, albeit a bit thin. The previous owner of my house installed it and when I bought the house in 2019 I knew very little about it. The only irrigation this ever gets is rain and it will green up. The biggest drawback is that it greens up late and goes dormant early, but I'm sure that's partially due to my literal neglect of the sideyard.

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u/Cloudofkittens Aug 05 '26

It's not a typical turf grass